New MEV relayer, Lido piloting DVT and more - The Daily Gwei Refuel #476 - Ethereum Updates

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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of The Daily way refuel where he kept the latest news in ethereum ecosystem I'm your host Anthony sassano and so the 27th of October 2022. all right everyone let's get into it so the all core devs calls are back in full swing today at 2PM UTC so as Tim biker says here there is a lot to cover and you can see the packed agenda at this link which of course will be linked in the YouTube description a bit just for ease of um of time here I'll read out the agenda so they'll be planning around Shanghai which is obviously that next Network upgrade coming uh uh coming up hopefully soon that involves client teams updates priorities Fork activation Uh current uh cfid eips with the withdrawals update uh Shandong that test

net that I spoke about uh I guess that devnet that I spoke about the other day other topics as well down here uh and some comments here as well which you can obviously go check out but yeah very cool to see that the all core devs calls are back and I'm very excited to see all the updates from that and see where we're at on a number of different fronts obviously we all want to know when Shanghai is going to go live especially things like withdrawals and Proto dank siding so very much looking forward to seeing the updates from that all right so uh speaking of Mev lately obviously I've been speaking about it a lot in the context of censorship resistance and censorship in General on ethereum uh Domo the here who is a daily gray OG put together a eighth research post and a Twitter thread explaining

their new proposal on how to tackle this issue of Mev right because and I was thinking about this after I saw Dom's post I was like okay like what is really the root issue here of censorship on ethereum it's not necessarily like the censorship right the root issue is Mev Mev is what's enabling the censorship and the reason why the censorship can happen is because we're given way too much power to these relays right that exist or to block builders that exist on ethereum and that that is the cause right there is the effect and then there is so there's a cause and effect right so the cause is Mev the effect is censorship so what if we eliminate as much mov as possible remove entirely or make it a more competitive kind of

process slash Market well well Dom's got an idea here and that's basically what if we burned the Mev uh so you can check out this post here on E3 search it's quite lengthy actually and uh it looks like he's been working on this for for quite a while so just a big kudos to to them for getting this out there and they've got a few replies here as well from people like Micah and Barnaby who you will probably know of I've talked about them a bunch on the refuel as well but basically uh the tldr here is that uh the idea is to get rid of the Monopoly uh the Meb Monopoly by taking a random sample of validators every slot uh slot is basically a um every 12 seconds in private stake and it's otherwise referred to as a block and letting them compete against each other

whoever is willing to burn the most eth gets to propose the block and collect the block propose a reward from the newly issued eth this doesn't change anything for Block Builders they're still competing with each other like they are today it's just that their bids end up being burned instead of given to a single person meaning they'd be bribing the network itself instead of a single proposer every slot if done right this could fix a big centralization Vector for validators suddenly controlling more validators doesn't mean getting disproportionately more income it just means you burn Mev uh more often bringing us closer to the goal of uh quote X percent of the state gets you X percent of the rewards end quote so this is more on on the side of fixing I guess validator centralization and that

incentive to basically go with a giant pool because you can get better rewards from things like Mev right and I think this is a really great and pretty pretty cool solution uh there as I said there's some discussion on the E3 search post there was some discussion on on Twitter I think Paulina actually brought up a concern with this or said like a disadvantage so disadvantage would be that it exacerbates eth volatility as thus far Mev has been proportional to speculative activity velocity at a time at which its value is over already over inflated to be a better money eth must improve its volatility I think what paulina's trying to say here and I don't really necessarily disagree but don't agree either I'm kind of neutral on this but what they're trying to say is that a lot of Mev or

most of it is tied to eat volatility right when eat price goes up there's a lot of Market activity when each price goes down there's a lot of Market activity that translates into on-chan activity which translates into Mev opportunities right whether they be liquidations sandwich attacks front running all that sorts of stuff it volatility is like the Beating Heart of Mev at least uh for Unchained me V right uh so when you think about it like that well Paulina is basically saying is that this new thing that Dom's come up with would exacerbate that eth volatility which would lead uh to having more Mev and lead to maybe more perverse outcomes uh down the line uh and there was a few other replies here as well uh both you know pros and cons obviously there's nothing's perfect right guys but the

reason why I thought this was interesting and wanted to highlight it well at least the main reason was simply because there are so many people working on not just censorship concerns or censorship issues within ethereum but also the issues around centralization of stake slash validators now what I find funny about this whole concept of centralization of validators and stake is that people will say well you know you can just go on proof of work and it fixes the issue no no it doesn't matter if it's hash power or stake the the problem is and the hardware problem is that things tend to centralize based on economies of scale improve of work the economies of scale are pretty self-explanatory right you have more money you can buy more mining Hardware you can earn more rewards and then you

keep going up and up and up right and you can you keep and basically the people who and and it's also very costly to set up a mining operation and over time attends to centralize the same is true for staking but just in a different way and with ethereum as well with smart contract blockchains you have Mev which is also another pressure on uh centralization right because as I said because of Mev people tend to pull their stake together so that they can get access to more rewards uh dude from that Mev instead of doing it on their own and proposing it on their own so what uh dominance proposal here does is try to flip that on its head instead of going to the actual proposer uh the Mev or I guess like the the burn the East burned

or the um the profits would go to the network itself through that that burning mechanism and this is I guess in the same line of thinking around erp51559 right where most of the value of a transaction are the fear revenue from that transaction I should say sorry is burned and the miners get uh get a little bit of that as a tip and this has proved to be pretty awesome for a number of different reasons so let's you know maybe apply that to Mev as a whole so we're gonna have to see how this evolves and how um Dom's proposal is uh I guess um refined over time and taken by the community but if this ends up in the network this would be really cool I I think that uh I don't know personally I think it's really cool because Dom has been active in the daily way Discord

Channel as I said is a deadly way oh gee uh and it'd be awesome to see someone from the daily way community get something into the core protocol like that that's a that basically makes them I mean it doesn't make him a core Dev so to speak but it definitely you know gets him as close as anyone else or closer than me that's for sure so yeah I just like uh this little personal note there on that one but you can check this out for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description and below all right so speaking of Mev we have a new relayer out today from uh this Twitter account Builder 0x69 so they are now producing full unfiltered blocks unfiltered meaning uh not censorship a block not censoring block so not of fat compliant blocks at this website relay

or dot WTF it's fully open source completely permissionless validates only block payment but not block content if your small scale validator increase they're interested in if you're a small scale validator interested in protecting each neutrality you're welcome to connect now I like this first sentence here oh I mean part of this first sentence where they said validates only block payment but not a block content that's how it should be that basically means it validates based on how much you're willing to pay for uh your transaction to get into a block not based on block content which is what that's something like the flashbots relay is doing they're doing the block payment as well obviously but they're also doing the block content where they're basically saying okay well this is coming or if this is going to a tornado cash address or to an open back

sanctioned address don't process this and that's obviously what we want to eliminate or at least get rid of as much as possible and one way of doing that is by having a diverse relayer Market basically that people can choose from that validators can choose from now this is literally very very new this is with I think this only came out less than 24 hours ago and they've already got almost a thousand validators that are active on their um on their relay here so obviously it's not nothing major yet but as I said they just came out right you're gonna have to give it time but it's cool to see that they've got almost a thousand validators already to put that in a bit of context I guess there's 450 000 validators active right now on the network not all of those validators are um are currently uh using Mev boost

either so if we go to the Mev watch website we can get kind of I guess actually maybe the raider.network website will give us a better uh kind of view here let me get this tab up here so uh yeah we can kind of see uh the distribution here and how things are looking uh let's let's have a look here so I just just want to look at it's going to be kind of hard for me to work this out on the Fly here I wanted to look at how many validators were using uh flash Bots and I've got a percentage here but this is a percentage of all Mev boosted blocks and then rated network will show yeah I mean it'll show it kind of yeah it's kind of hard to get the percentage here but obviously flashbots is extremely prevalent on the network uh

maybe if I include all blocks that's uh no that's a good proxy because you can basically say let's have a look I'm just doing quick math I know that I'm I'm rambling a little bit here I'm trying to do this on the fly so seven percent not flash bots so if we do that 63 percent of all blocks and then we do 80 let's do naive man let's just say let's just say sixty percent uh are censoring right now so sixty percent of the total validators would be around 200 and I don't know 80 290 000 validators are currently part of the censoring ones so yeah I mean it's obviously quite a small share right now but hopefully that grows and hopefully it chips into those uh censoring relays so if you want to check this out and put in your possibly Point your validators

towards this you can I'll link it in the YouTube description below all right so uh a smart programmer.eath from the nethermine team today uh put out just an update tweet saying that they have synced with Shandong so nevermind is now on that Shandong devnet that I have spoken about the the usual process here guys of testing erps that go into the you know ethereum upgrades is the I guess specifications of those erps obviously uh and then uh doing devnets around them then doing test Nets then mainnet so rather devnet phage which is a phase which is very cool I've just I've gone through yesterday how withdrawals are making good progress there's a lot of progress happening on proto-dank Shining of course as well and a bunch of the other eips but we already

have the devnets out if we can get a test net out uh for these sorts of stuff maybe by the end of the year that'd be very promising for a possibly late q1 uh Shanghai upgrade coming to the ethereum network maybe maybe early Q2 as I've discussed time I mean timelines are always all over the place uh but that's my current thinking around the timelines there right so speaking of eip4844 Slash Proto dank sharding uh that Meme that I spoke about the other day around blobs right and around blob space uh and things like that there's also another meme that is the dots small o large o and now what this actually translates to is that the dots is data availability today so we have a very small amount of data availability uh today right like on on

the ethereum network the lowercase o is Proto dank shining so we increase that by a little bit I mean not by a little bit we increase it by about 10 to 100 x right it's obviously a lot but then we go uh Big O which is full dank shining so full dank shot is going to give us much more capacity than we have under Proto dank sharding but I think this is really cool because uh it's actually like a meme that makes a lot of sense and I think there's been a bit of confusion around this as you can see from the replies that uh Tim's saying you know this is literally the reason for the meme and then Ansgar said here well I hope you realize the amount of confusion you created because literally no one could tell me what it meant and he's got a screenshot of Trent uh Van

Epps here saying Tim started it I think it's just Blobs of various sizes which is kind of I guess it kind of like in the same realm of what this actually is but yeah this is our new meme so if you see people saying this dots sorry I should say a period uh then a lowercase o and a big case o it basically means data availability today product and full dunk sharding we are actually much closer to parodang sharding than I think people think which is cool full dang shining I think people underestimate how long that's going to take I think that's why Protank shining is even a thing is because we know that full Dan shouting may take look if I had to put a timeline on it it could take till like 2025 guys like that's how complex this sort of

stuff is and I think the one of the most complex parts of it is Das or data availability sampling and making sure that we understand that correctly when we Implement that correctly and we can actually implement it so I wouldn't expect full dank shining anytime soon but proto-dang shining I mean realistically we can have that in the first half of next year if not maybe we have a little bit later but that's definitely coming much sooner than than full dank shotting all right so I've spoken a lot about DVT or distributed validator technology lately and it's uh and Lido announced today that they're actually initiating a pilot integration of DVT with SSV Network here so they're using eight knot note operators on the girly test net to do this and they've successfully operating two well-performing

distributed validators already so very cool to see the biggest and a staking entity on ethereum taking advantage of the DBT technology because as I've described before DVT allows us to have a healthier more reliable more decentralized a beacon chain and that's obviously what we want right and DVT also helps with things like uh like centralized exchange staking now as I've described before if for example uh coinbase uh has that obviously staking operation but they use DVT what could happen is that you would still retain basically full custody of your eth that you're staking with them and then at any time you could withdraw that from uh from there but they would still control the validator obviously they're being

clever case but you can withdraw your eight so it eliminates that custody rate custody risk but you it also allows you still allows you to Outsource your validated responsibilities or duties to coinbase now of course there is an element of I mean I would I don't know if I'd call it custody but there is an element of risk there still because obviously if kome mass is validators get slashed your ether's getting slashed doesn't matter if you can withdraw it or not it's going to get slashed right and you can also if coinbase is validators go offline yourself from an activity league but the whole point would be that you're able to basically retain uh that control over your funds rather than giving it over to coinbase which is obviously very cool it's very good for coinbase as well are they the less they have to custody the better and they can

still offer the same service right um they just have to run the DVT software instead so very cool to see later uh doing a pilot program here with SSV Network one of the leaders in this space I hope to see more and more of these DVT implementations go live over the coming months all right so speaking of dank sharding Haim here has another great thread out today it's a 30-part tweet thread going all uh talking all about dank shining they start off this thread by saying from a to kzg a comprehensive Guide to the post-merge roadmap of the world computer protodankshiting proposal Builder separation and dank shining so it covers the whole Spectrum here and as I said it's a 30-part tweet thread so you can go check this out I'll link it in the YouTube description below but I just wanted to highlight this for you

guys because I think it's very important to be aware of these three things in particular because they are three of the biggest upgrades coming to ethereum over the next few years and if you want to be at the Forefront of ethereum knowledge well this is where you want to be all right so Brantley uh yeah put out a great tweet Thread about signing with ethereum today now I've spoken about signing with ethereum a bunch on the refuel it's basically the concept of uh using your ethereum wall to sign into anything on the internet basically it's instead of signing in with Google you sign in with ethereum and that that means passwordless sign in your password is basically your private key but it goes beyond that it's not just simply uh connect wallet as Brantley says here so the reason it goes beyond that is

because uh as you can see here in brantley's thread what is signing with ethereum well let's say you want to use block scan chat you can click the sign in button and you're presented with wallet options just like connect wallet but after you select your wallet provider an extra step appears and you're asked to sign a message we've all been asked to sign messages like this uh in in the past we're all pretty familiar with this interface this message you're asked to sign is the core of signing with ethereum and doesn't happen with connect wallet it might not seem like much but the signing with ethereum standard is mostly just a standard of workloads in that message and took a lot of thought discussion and debate by signing the message you prove you have your private key without without revealing what it is obviously a server

can then use that to match you to a user in their system if that's too complemented if if that's too complicated just know this your private key basically acts as a login password to their servers to to whoever server so instead of these servers having to store passwords or store hashed versions of of the passwords or anything like that they don't have to do this at all you they can just say okay here sign in with your ethereum wallet you know connect it sign in and sign this message and then away you go and then also on top of that you have all of your users State as part of your ethereum wallet and that's this is in the context of other things I've talked about in the past as well like something like a decentralized social media where you can take your social graph with you it's so incredibly

powerful and it's it flips the client server architecture on its head it basically makes every client a server really at the end of the day right um not in the literal sense but when you kind of think of it in the practical sense you retain custody of all the important things yes your date your data your state is still living on the ethereum blockchain ethereum blockchain is your quote-unquote server but it's decentralized it's open it's not locked away in some World Garden you can kind of bring that wherever you want maybe the better term would be like a portable uh portable server so to speak right they can go you can bring it wherever you want you can sign up with ethereum you can sign whatever message you want and prove whatever you want and then we take that to the next level with things

like sismo ZK badges which I've talked about before where you could prove yourself like um proof who you are to certain services without needing to reveal any of that information and and that service could have cryptographic proof that you are who you say you are thanks to that ZK badge and I mean this this this stuff guys like it's going to be so prevalent inside crypto but also outside of it you can already imagine the amount of use cases stuff like this has for things outside of crypto and I think this is what a lot of people Miss is that we're not just developing this stuff for our not our Niche little crypto corner or we have djends doing djen things no we're developing this stuff for everyone everywhere where in the world and all a lot of this technology that we're developing such as

ZK is going to have so many applications outside of crypto outside of blockchain inside outside of what we're used to in crypto that I think a lot of people are going to be blown away by that so don't miss the forest for the trees so to speak when it comes to this sort of stuff there's definitely a lot happening um but yeah you can go read brantley's full Twitter thread I'll link it in the YouTube description below alright so an interesting little uh I guess announcement from stockware here today so apparently there is going to be a ZK evm that is going to be written in Cairo called Kakarot now for those of you who don't know uh Kakarot is a reference to a Dragon Ball an anime called Dragon Ball Z uh it's basically the name that Vegeta calls Goku in uh in in Dragon Ball Z uh so basically there's

going to be a Twitter space with vitalik uh Eli Ben Sassoon uh one of the co-founders of stockware um Shaha papini and Abdul Hamid bhakta here which all I believe work at stockware except vitalik uh yeah yeah and they're going to be talking about this new Kakarot ZK evm now what I find funny about this is that stockware has generally been maybe not against ckvm but they've been signaling that they want to build something non-evm as part of Stark net which is they're still doing obstet but it's cool to say that they're actually building ZK of him as well this is a very strong social signal from Stark where the I mean inventor of stocks right Eli is the ZK stock co-inventor here for them to come around

to ZK VM and actually see value in it and actually want to promote it in their own language with being Cairo as well uh is really really cool so this would be a ZK AVM written in Cairo there's a Twitter account for it at Kakarot ZK VM here which you can go check out um but yeah and there's also this Twitter spaces which I actually don't know when it's happening if I click through to maybe tell me tomorrow at 1am okay so well that's 1am my time uh so you can work out whatever time that is for you but basically it's happening tomorrow uh you can actually no no way I'm recording this 11 pm which means it's happening in two hours okay so it's maybe it's already happened by the time you've watched the refuel uh you can go check it out I'll link it in the YouTube

description below all right so arbitrim announced today that there is a new arbitrim Nova block Explorer that's now live courtesy of either either scan so this is at nova.rbscan.io now for those of you don't know arbitrim Nova is a separate Network to arbitrum one so arbitrimony is the network that we've all used we all know and love it's a full uh optimistic roll-up on ethereum it's got all the d5s we love on there everything like that arbitrim Nova was created as a standalone uh I guess oh God some people call l2s some people don't but albertron Nova uses an off-chain data availability committee right it's not a roll-up and this is uh for reddit's Community points is very popular on the other trip Nova network but now with this block Explorer

you can see how they're growing so basically you can actually see they've been growing quite well unique addresses keep trending up they're at 166 000 so far in arbitrim Nova and daily transactions have also been creeping up uh as well here which stand at about 30 000 on average I think uh anywhere from 20 to 30 000 daily transactions obviously nowhere near if you remain there or anything like that but this is just arbitrim Nova I mean I was looking at Arboretum one before and they're at like I think almost 500 000 transactions per day and that's growing so the growth is what we want to see and the growth is what we are seeing so I I use um I'll be scan a lot to and opti-scan and all these different scans to keep up with how these networks are going so I'm

super excited to have one for arbitrim Nova now because I think Albert trim Nova is a pretty cool and important Network that a lot of people are getting value out of um but you know in the future maybe albertron Nova just becomes a full roll up anyway because it becomes cheap to put data on ethereum Main that you don't need to have an off-chain data availability Community which is very very cool because that would automatically Port all of that I guess Network effect to a full roll-up all right so hot protocol announced today their first liquidity mining program and which is now live so liquidity providers in the bridges amms and the bridge amms can now stake their LP tokens to earn hop rewards in addition to the trading fees they were earning previously uh and then they said get ready for some very juicy rewards on

single-sided asset exposure now obviously I don't know what the yields are right now I don't have a handy on me but there will be 2 million hop that'll be distributed to LPS per month since hop is now a multi-chain token the rewards can be claimed directly on each Network that you are on and of course hop tokens can also be bridged across l2s on hot protocol at minimal cost this is going to be really awesome for hop Bridge liquidity obviously because there's going to be a lot of people that come into it to take advantage of this liquidity mining program and earn some hop rewards and we've seen how much of a flywheel effect that that can have when done right and I think the hot protocol team I mean I've seen nothing but good things from them they are a very very strong team and know what they're doing

uh that seems to be on more on the more conservative side that with their liquidity mining program and I think they have a lot of experience and a lot of no knowledge on what's worked and what hasn't in the liquidity mining space so I'm excited to see how they approach it and how it actually um continues over time uh but yeah if you are interested in providing liquidity here you can be sure to do so you just have to go to the hop website uh but I'll link the update or this thread in the YouTube description below for you to check out all right so uh I came across this new service today called Harpy and they basically announced themselves by saying Sonic transaction is one of the scariest experiences in web3 am I signing the right thing is this website really open C did I just get rugged uh well they're

we're launching Harpy the first crypto firewall to end fear and theft on chain now the reason why this caught my eye especially is because of fire that I've been talking about lately as well like that extension that tells you exactly what's going on when you uh do a transaction on metamask Harpy is is similar in that it's trying to protect users from things like this but I think what Harpy is doing is a bit different in that they're creating what they're calling a crypto firewall so basically what you can do is and you can enter the RPM I haven't actually gone through the process yet so I'm I've connected my wallets I connected sasol.east to this and you this is the onboarding process so if I could continue once I've connected my wallet I say okay I use D5 I'll continue there then you go add apps

to your trusted Network so I can add all these apps to my trusted Network or remove them or sorry deselect them and not include them but I'm going to include everything right now and then continue uh you can add friends to your trusted network uh as well uh and then it'll show you here what uh you know a summary of what you've done and then you can create a dashboard uh you've got a greater the terms and service I'm signing a transaction in metamask here just bear with me uh and it's this is just setting up my firewall and basically from my understanding what this is going to do is it's only going to allow me to sign messages and I'll submit transactions from things that I've allowed through my firewall so for those of you who know what a firewall um looks like and what a firewall uh kind

of um how firewall works in the traditional sense well this should make sense to you and uh it doesn't seem to have worked uh so far it says I'm not registered let's get started and it's going to make me go through the onboarding process again all right fair enough uh maybe it's just uh it's just that a bug because as I said this just came out today I believe but anyway the concept is is that uh you're gonna firewall off yourself from accidentally intro interacting with something that isn't what it says it is which I think is incredibly powerful because there's a lot of fishing sites out there say for example you go to a page a uni swap a site you think's uni swap is actually a phishing website if you went to interact with that at that address or that's my contract you wouldn't be able to Harpy

would block that happy would tell you hey you know you're not interacting with real uni swap you're interacting with fake uni swap uh this is not part of your allowed apps and that would save so many people from making these mistakes of interacting with these these fake apps that would say people so many so much money and yeah I mean I see the absolute obvious use case here or something like this and I'm really excited this is out this is out there but this is more complementary uh to to fire as well so if you were using fire and Harpy together it'd be really cool because fire will still tell you what's exactly what's what's actually happening because at the end of the day um with uh with even though you're allowing things through the harpy firewall those things can still become compromised right there can be still be

a bug in that smart contract which makes it compromise which means that you may be interacting with something that is different to what you expect it to be even though you've allowed it through the firewall so those go hand in hand which I think is pretty cool but you can go check out Harpy for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description below all right so another service I came across today was something called daylight so daylight tells you everything your wallet can do such as minting of nfts airdrops unlocks votes Etc uh your the free their free access nft called Dawn pass lets you into their beta and you can reply to the Tweet with your ANS if your account to get your account whitelist oh sorry to get your account allowed listed and then you can head to beta.daylight.xyz to check it out now I

have already connected my wallet here I was already allowed listed because I replied with sasol.heath and you can see here all uh the way it works so basically it'll show me um my abilities so what I what I can basically do right now I can add different wallets to here it's just sasol.heath right now I can filter through what I want to see like a type whether it's a mint airdrop or whatever else well Community it's part of and all that good stuff there and then I can see updates I can see a profile the abilities is pretty cool because you can mark them as completed or dismiss them as well so I can just say okay cool I saw this Mark is completed I already did it and then it'll uh mark it as completed there and I can dismiss things like dismiss right

this is really cool because I think it's taking so what it's doing is there's a website out there I can't remember what it was what it's called right now that allows you to see where you've actually got airdrops uh claimable on um and it's behind a paywall of course but it's actually a pretty good business model because it's worth you paying I think it's like 10 or something to reveal airdrops that are worth more than that um but this goes up daylight goes a step further than that and just doesn't just show you airdrops it shows you as much as it can which I thought was really cool so you can go check this out for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description below I want to get through the last two updates here really quickly because I'm running out of time zero x a

project introduced their Xerox Explorer today which they're calling the most reliable and transparent tool to help developers and users verify transactions and analyze on-chan activity and an easy and low friction way on the Xerox um protocol here so it's at explorer.0x.org it looks very nice uh they've had something similar to this in the past I believe but I think this is probably this is definitely an overhaul of that system um and you can go check this out for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description below but just wanted to highlight that for you guys and last up here is something that polymart can has launched called midterms.co which they're calling the ultimate hub for midterms forecast so for those of you who don't know the midterm elections are happening in the US next month I believe early next month there's obviously a lot on the line here

um uh because uh the Republicans could potentially flip the uh the Senate here and uh and and the house uh to to their control if they win uh all the Democrats could hold on to control if they win obviously but if you want to bet on that you can at midterms.co uh powered by poly Market you can see the odds you can see everything on here very very cool little service I've thought prediction markets are a cool thing for a while they haven't really taken off just yet but I think stuff like political betting is and sports betting is definitely the ideal use case for prediction markets uh and it's cool to see that they've spun up this uh midterms.co on polymarket domain here in order to let you bet on the midterms but I think that's going to

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