Hypercerts protocol 🚀

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all right uh hi everyone welcome to today's learn and share uh today we have big bger from hypers ser and he will work us to the hypers Ser protocol U maybe some demo some point I hope uh at a given time uh during the presentation I will ask you to mute yourself if you don't mind uh so the sound quality can keep uh better if you want to just ask question you can use the text channel here and before we begin I would like to know no rural no ST before we begin I would like to know anyone know about hypers Sur here if you know you can hit the fire icon or thumbs

up no okay one thumbs up few thumbs up all right so I can uh so be that's your audience today so I will give a microphone to Big Beaker yeah great thank you Charlie for the introduction uh thanks all all for having me and um being interested in learning more about hypers certs um I usually there are a lot of people or some people that have heard about hyps but it's also still a little bit of like an abstract concept so what I'm going to try to do today in the 45ish minutes that I have is going to speak run through ether of not ethereum through hypers certs what they are how

they work and what the larger vision is and hopefully I can paste this well enough so that I can also show you actually how to use application and what actually happens in the back end I don't think the problem is my uh velocity of speech but I'm going to try to be clear in everything that I'm saying at the same time um if you have any questions just put them in the chat we can scroll back at the end and if um I'm going too fast or uh if you cannot hear me anymore just uh speak up um okay let's get started so starting with a mouthful hypers servs are an onchain primitive at the foundation of a scalable interruptible and transparent

funding ecosystem for impact ranging from Community Services to AI alignment like I said that's a mouthful but in the core hypers is a onchain primitive that's the designed for a funding ecosystem for impact that's scalable interruptable and transparent so you could see it as uh A Primitive for impact funding on chain that's still a little bit vague but if you look at what a hyp really is it's simply an account of actions that have had that have happened uh or had have had an positive impact or expected to have a positive impact um the easiest way to say is just is a decoration of who what and when um in here you see an example of a game

Forest hypers cert game Forest is a product or Community organization that is involved with uh biodiversity data and does a lot of measurements uh a lot of different stages and they Meed this hypur in September two years ago at least that's when they did to work um so why are we building this so what's really the problem that we're trying to solve for um if you've been involved in Grants funding you might have noticed that there's a a little Gap there because we do have funders and we do have contributors and the we do have funders that give grants to the contributors the contributors create

their work and maybe they produce impact but we don't really know right there is um it's not really clear what is the feedback loop between funding that we give the work that people are doing and the impact that they achieve and by proxy the impact of the funding that you're giving so hypers tries to um build an ecosystem where we can take a different approach to this problem so if we go back to that the fact that we have funders and contributors what we introduce in the mix is that contributors can create an Hyer so the impact claim that says who did what and when that means that the funders can

actually look at the hypers certs about what people say that they did when and what they did um that allows us to um actually map work that contributors are doing to hypers certs so the funders have like a central point of data where they can look if somebody says this is what I did then they know where to look to how to find what they actually really did the the work of the contributors hopefully still has impact um but but we want to be able to quantify this so what we need to introduce in this storyline is evaluators evaluators could be a third party but it

could also be um they could be closely related to the funders or they could even be the contributors that self attest or provide certain types of data um we'll get to this later but ideally you have uh a schoras board of evaluators and you can basically for the type of work or impact that you want to evaluate you can look at the type of evaluation that you're looking for um I see that Laura is in the room and I noce she's this is her thing the evaluators will produce an impact evaluation pointing to the hypur so that means that we have work connected to a hypers cert and we have the evaluation of the impact connected

to the hypur the theory is that this signals funders on which hypers Sears to fund and that indirectly also means that the the funders get them get a metric or they get data on what are they funding what is the work that it's related to and what is the impact that it achieved and I'll deally will'll see a Marketplace of different maybe tiers or type of funders that exchange hypers Sears and maybe even like in different stages this is all like what I was explaining is mostly retroactive right so I did

work um because I did work I can declare my impact or people can evaluate it y yada y but the interesting thing is that when your contributor that has um positively evaluated hypers certs we're basically building a reputation system for contributors and the work that they do which should make it more attractive to also start thinking about anticipating impact and when we can anticipate impact you also make it interesting to start working with Pro prospective funding so in our space we're obviously working very hard on retroactive funding but it's also because even that even though that's a very difficult problem looking back is still easier than looking

ahead um but now we can actually have uh a um a provence of the impact that people have and then when they apply for Grants we can see oh this is kind of what you do and this is your domain you're really good at it so maybe we want to give you a grant compared to some random in on that says I'll fix it so how's it going with hypers certs um this is a tun dashboard that I updated this morning and what's interesting to see is that there's a bunch of blue peaks in the bottom right corner what we've been doing is that we've been working closely with gitcoin and uh for every gitcoin round we uh reach out to the the round projects or the applicants and we gave

him opportunity to Min the hypers cert so that when people actually um donated by sending um let's say D or R E or whatever into the Grant application after the round ended They will receive a fraction of a hypers cert so actually they get something back for Their donation this is why you see these blue Peaks because every blue Peak is like every 3 months and this is in the same Cadence as the CR rounds in case you're curious what the red Peak is this is somewhere around the timeline where getcoin passport said what we will do is we'll support hypers certs but because hypers certs and we'll get back to it later at this moment is

simply minting a claim that was very attractive for people that want to um Farm high gitcoin passport scores to start minting random hypers servs even though you see that we almost minted more that we minted more than 54,000 hypers certs you can um it's fair to challenge which ones are really valid and this brings us back to the whole point that we need evaluations in this ecosystem um just just as the just this is nice to see this is an overview of some of the hypers that have been minting under the gr round so you see ether Autos scan you see bankl Dow uh W3

Beach uh and a whole bunch of different projects so what are we really building at the moment what are we what are we what is the vision we as the hypers foundation We Lay the foundation for the hypar protocol as a primitive in the whole funding ecosystem so we developed the protocol for minting and we develop developed the marketplace for trading on top of that we offer uh Tooling in the form of SDK case but you could also um utilize different tooling because and we'll get back to it later a hypers is basically an onchain contract so anything that you can do on chain that's reasonably compliant with one one of

five tokens you can do with hypers then there's applications and Integrations and uh on the use cases but we are taking the bottomup approach where we want to empower parties in our ecosystem system or in the impact funding ecosystem to use hypers as a as a primitive so how does it really work um what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to just take the diagram that we've seen before this one and I'm going to map it to the tools that we're building so you can see kind of how it all fits together in this hyp ecosystem that we're

building the the first part is that we have contributors that create a hypur to declare the type of work that they intend to do or that they have done for this we created the hypers Ser Minal contract that's uh here's a link on optimism I'll share the link to the presentation afterwards it allows you to Mint create allow list split hypers merge them burn them and transfer them I'll get back to the splitting and merging later because it's a very interesting detail but I first want to get you to the high level then if you look at the funders there are a few things that we are building for one of them is the hypers exchange which is basically a fork of

looks R protocol where we took out things that we don't need and we added a layer to support hyps this allows you to buy sell bid uh on Hyer or hypers fractions and they support multiple strategies so you could think about a direct sale or a fractional sale or even a Dutch auction alternatively what we've done in the past is basically um connecting to different grants flows so um the most recent example that I can give you that I worked on myself is for gg9 we work with the green pill network with rild and we set up a a one-off app

that allowed green pill members to Mint hypers certs these hypers certs would then be uh part of there chapter and a chapter round so you could in the green pill app you could actually see what is the work that the green pill chapters have done the the theory here is but this needs another iteration is that this allows local chapters to actually fund hypers Sears on the local level and on the global level you can fund the green pill Network for the impact that they funded so we're creating like a funding flywheel that's supported by hypers voice De um will happen this quarter but I'm just very excited to do this I'm a big fan of the and the work that he's doing so I'm

really looking forward to this uh integration lastly evaluations evaluations is uh difficult Beast because there is not one gold stand evaluations and I believe there never will be which is fine because we all work for D centralization and we we appreciate at least I assume we appreciate the Bazar approach so this is also the approach that we are taking here um in this quarter we will focus on working on evaluations which means that we will first support uh that we will first support the the parts that we the parties that we already worked with in

making evaluations so that means for in a gitcoin grant gitcoin can actually say this hypers was part of gg9 and this hypur that looks exactly the same wasn't it's a it's basically a duplicate so we can at least make them uh true or false we can identify duplicates and then we can start growing this because when once we have this pattern down on okay how do we want a point evaluation to hypers certs we're going to um really F uh double down on EAS because EAS is simply everywhere and they provide one simple service and that is a registry of schemas which means that if we can support a

registry of schemas other people can provide the schemas and Via their whole esas infrastructure we can just point to a whole different set of evaluation data sets because they all points to a hypers serve so as long as we can Define the the base schema that says okay if you want to point to a hypers serve for evaluation we need this information from you then we can work with Laura or open Reserve server or a voice tag to say like okay give me your data let's make it a nice schema and then other people can use the schema as well or if you don't agree with the schema you can make your own but just match the standards and surface information and um I'm

really excit I'm really excited about that we're going to do this this year so this once again brings everything together we have tooling for contributors we have tooling for funders and we're working on the tooling for evaluations and this way we are working on the hypers ecosystem what tooling are we providing I know this is a little bit messy it's just for the concept is for the contributors and the minting we're providing the hyp SDK for the marketplace we're providing the marketplace SDK but they are very closely related but they just have different utilities and for the evaluation it will probably be the hypers SDK

and then with some EES flows supported out of the box so this was my speedrun into what are we doing with ethereum does anybody have any questions right now or should I start with a little demo feel free to unmute yourself and uh ask question we have flat structure here okay well if nobody's any questions then I'll um I'll start with a little demo I wasn't really sure if I want if I wanted to dive into the code so I'll

first just start with okay let's Min the hypers CER and let's see what happens and then we can we can take it from there so we provide um hypers search.org on testnet and on optimism and on Cell the testnet is a polia because girly is uh deprecating this month and here you can simply create a new hypers so this is the demo for uh psse and this uh this is arbitrary but this should be 20 in this app example. um it's

me and it's BC and we can provide an allow list I I know I'm just filling in some Fields right now but while we're waiting for the mint I'm going to explain to you what they are actually doing so the allow list like I said before with the grand stack is that the hype has been minted or the grand round the hype has been minted but a group of people can actually claim these fractions right so because I donated I get a fraction of the web 3B screen I an allow list looks like this it's basically um an address for who receives this and the amount of units that

they'll get so I can provide this allow list here I said oh but I'm the Creator and I want to um keep 50% for myself for further further funding future funding flows but the other 50% will be distributed using this allow list um I confirmed that contributors gave the permission and I agreed as usual so after I sign this transaction I will explain a little bit more about what is all the information that we just gave waiting for the sign button yes signed okay and back to the hyps the

hyps are DEC Declaration of would and want and when for funding so so one is that we have the impact Creator right um which in this case was me because I meant this hypers then we also have the uh contributors so let's say yeah the web 3B screen I think it's a is a really easy example because somebody's organizing this and they or organizing community members to contribute to the rep 3 Beach action so these contributors are the non-financial contributors and they are

expressed here in the contributors list of contributors to work oh it's already done but I'm going to finish my story first so here are list of contributors and these are the people that are non-financial contributors right then um you saw the allow list but uh allow list are actually Financial contributors Financial contributors AKA funders so again in the g19 example you donated to this project so this is why you're getting a fraction and you're getting a fraction because you actually send funds to the to the

impact so this hypers actually brings three groups together you have the impact Creator or the coordinators you have the non contributors and you have to five ni contributors and all of them are represented in this mint so now we minted this hypers cert and if you go to my hypers certs you can actually see here the mint that I made because this address 77 is in this allow list here and I am the Creator and just said I get 50% that means that I get two fractions right and if this is unclear uh we can we can cover this in the questions but I

just want you to understand what app is actually doing so you basically got two fractions you can claim them both but sign yeah you can claim them both so what actually happens while I'm making this um claim so as a US user user I'm using the I'm using the app that utilizes the SDK that is

calling the contract the contract is aware of the allow list which is basically a mer P tree stored onchain so we store a root onchain and you give the proof and that means that you can create a fraction then the contract is aware of um the contract is aware of the claim and the claim has data so it has like uh metadata like you seen with other nfts and this metadata then points to the hypur data this claim is but it doesn't mean anybody has any

tokens oh I'm sorry for that uh that doesn't mean that the claim is that the claim has any tokens right so what actually happens during this mint is that the contract is being called to create fractions right and we have one two three four five fractions right uh few for me a few for somebody else and another one these uh fractions are the things that you actually own so now when you see that I claim these and I need to refresh the demo psse they show this fraction

that I own right now I own 50.5% because I'm the creater and I made the allow list um and here you basically see a representation of the metadata the interesting part is that these fractions are semif fungible nfts or sorry semi fungible tokens why are the semi fungible is because what we actually do is if you take the claim it has a claim ID for instance for 10 right just just follow me it's 10 then the fraction gets 11 11 and then the second fraction gets

12 and then the third uh blah blah blah blah blah and then the last one has 15 so what happens when you make a new claim is that this one is updated or we got a new one that has 20 and then is 21 22 25 I think you get it just what this enables us to do is that if you look at the allow list and uh get an x amount of units of this hypers CER is I merge 11 and 12 and then they become uh 16 and they

have more units what I also can do is split them so I make them a little bit smaller and then suddenly it's this size and it's this size the reason why we enable this is that you can actually start um because if you get an hypers fraction back for the funding that you're doing you might not want to have a gazillion hypers in your um opy so you can basically merge them all on the value that they have and in the long term the idea is that you can also split and merge them on the type of impact that they created so now basically we're doing numbers and value or like uh let's say um Financial value

but you can also think about the the value of the impact and how how that can work together so if you look here in the app you can also split it and that means that I can split this one up in 570 submit waiting music waiting music and what happens during the split is like I explained so we're taking let's say we're taking 15 and fraction uh 15 is burned and then we or is made smaller and then suddenly we're getting

16 and we're getting fraction 17 and you see the same Happening Here on the app so now suddenly you have three tokens uh we haven't enabled merge button in here yet but it is at least on the contract level it's possible let's see so with this allow list you saw that this is my allow list and I'm a member here um but what I also did is go to my hypers search with a different account and now you see that I I did it already before the demo and I'm now doing here the same so this is

basically how the distribution of hyp fractions [Music] Works [Music] sign this is basically the the speedrun that I really wanted to get on hypers but I know that I covered a lot of ground so I wanted to give a little bit more space for having some questions and see how um how I can help you um maybe also use hypers certs or if you have any question on how things specifically work I can easily explain them here right now I see that Laura posted a bunch of

questions more than me believing there is an easy answer is privacy useful for evaluators for evaluators in terms of not revealing their identity maybe limiting into some other proof that demonstrates belonging or potential beneficiaries to that claim of impact yeah I I believe it is I I think it makes ton of sense because you don't always want to show what somebody did or you also don't maybe want to reveal that you were that person but maybe in an funding flow you want to be able that you were involved with this impact but not in what will exactly um the the catchphrase will be ZK

hyps uh and it would be really exciting but I I do still think that you would still need to have evaluations in that flow because otherwise it's still an arbitrary claim if you want to generate reputation is there a way to use zations for [Music] this I I think it's in the similar kind of answer I think CK makes a ton of sense um I think you can also then think about a a ZK flu where you can prove that you for instance have an x amount

of hypers that have been attested with certain positive or negative uh value um when you actually get to quantifiable metrics so for instance voice De uh Devine is designing the using the BC index you could think about having x amount of hyp that have a certain positive um the the certain positive BC value or maybe in total have hypers thought of CK or encrypted adest stations for the evaluations so only funders have this information displayed I don't think we thought about

this but I think this is uh I think this is fair for the whole ZK domain I think we're still establishing the whole ecosystem and then we can uh think about adding things like CK or um maybe losing something like shutter or uh other flows can I think of hyp as shares or bonds no hyp are not a financial instrument but they do facilitate funding flows so because there there's there's no like profit expectation or anything in hypers certs what we basically say

is um you we lean into the reputation or the prestige economy where you as a funer actually get something back for the funding uh that you distributed what makes a claim more legitimate than another question by Andy uh I think that's the I think that's the only uh solid answer I mean anybody can make a claim you could even make a claim that says hey I am uh I am an Aon address from vitalic but I have really M velic but it doesn't really mean anything right we so we need people to attest I do think there's and I talked

about this before I do think there is a whole range of evaluation metrics that you should use depending on if you're the green pill Network and you want to know if people are actually in the same room or if you're gain forest and you actually want to attest to the quality of the data that's been collected and being offered into the data Marketplace who decides what's a duplicate and what should be divided the the decider is the evaluator but it doesn't make it true right and this is the difficult part of evaluations you can also evaluate the evaluator so if Andy says uh can you me a duplicate one and I said no that's not

true then we both have one one right so it doesn't really change anything so probably the evaluator evaluator has reputation or there's other people also attesting to that what I think will be exciting in the future is when we get to a point of something like valid dat D where you basically have a a dow that's capable of coordinating evaluations or validations but also having a conflict resolution flow and maybe even having subd Dows that specialize in specific properties I'm mentioning Dows because I'm just a big fan of dows and I think in this decentralized Marketplace or ecosystem

that we're building uh DS have a natural fit and W decides the split of the shares that's also arbitrary basically the creator of the hypers determines what is the split of the shares so as you've seen in this um allow list I just made a lot of random numbers um in the case of the gg9 or Bitcoin grants rounds in general they basically use the donation amount that's received uh yeah what if several people claim the impact for the same thing organizing an event that help on board x amount people yeah I think we just is that um I think

you I think there's always a trust assumption in everything that we do even if you say we are trusting the we're trusting the validators we're trusting people building open source software and in this case we're also trusting uh certain evaluators more than others uh but it doesn't make them right per definition which is interesting um why is it called hypers and not funding CT or share CT okay okay um this is a little bit of the the background so hypers CER was okay maybe one step back even further I got involved with hypur because I was shelling Point Amsterdam and there was from auki there was a call

to action on quantifying or measuring impact of dows or impact Dows measuring pying impact and we made a we responded to RFP and at the same time protocol Labs reached out and said well if you want to think about quantifying uh impact you might also want to be able to know what is the impact or what is the work that has been done so instead of impact certificate they create these hypd certificates that have the properties of uh an unique object in hyperspace and this hyperspace was designed as a six-dimensional space that declares work impact time frame of work time frame of

impact contributors and you uses right or the Creator so it basically it's a unique object in uh in hyperspace the challenge was that if you want to use uh a protocol like this for everything it also needs to be very cheap and if you're going to put all of this data on chain in a in an immutable unique manner it's not cheap anymore so in the first instance we um we built for U mainnet but then we decided uh first we did a refector and second and it was still too expensive so we moved to optimism leading into the benefits of layer twos um but it's a hypur because in theory it's a unique object of work

and impact uh nare is asking about evaluation criteria and how evaluators are selected um I think this points to the same answer as before I think evaluators should be anybody that wants to evaluate and then we can evaluate if they are suitable for making these evaluations or maybe they know something that we don't um the approach that we're taking like I said before is that we'll be first figuring out how to work with EAS in a manner that we don't get a lock in so if we want to go to more layer twos than where eses is we need to have a way to still provide the same at the station evaluation

system um then we can work with close partners that we're also gradually reaching out to to start working with their evaluation schemas and how they want to provide evaluation data and usually I take the rule of three and if you do things a few times then you find the best uh the best pattern the most gener generalizable pattern and then we can open up for anybody providing any evaluations that doesn't mean that we are able to support all of them and this will be a very interesting process because we need to get to uh some sort of governance process where we can say well these are the

evaluations that we um let's say these are blue chip uh and don't hold me accountable in this framing but we can say like oh these are like the blue chip we know these are uh this is this is the high quality data that we're looking for but then we should still be able to surface all the other evaluation saying well here old the reviews that are blue chips but if you look at the masses nobody else is agreeing and this is also valuable information we need to be able to support this so I think my answer to your question how are eval selected is they are not but we do need to grow into this process um Charlie I'm curious to know about evaluation at the stations as the

fin drafted out voicex V1 evaluation BC ratio what are the things we need to do in order to be a standard scheme so there's there's not really a standard scheme but we need to figure out how we can uh connect those evaluations to hyps but that we can also can connect all other evaluations to hyps so on a technical level one thing that we thought about is that with EAS you also get a resol contract that mean that you can actually pass the evaluation to a contract that says oh yeah you're allowed to do it's valid or not um there also allows us to basically surface any evaluation that is pointing to hypers search because we don't need

to say oh you're supporting our schema you can just basically say as long as you pass your evaluation through our contracts we will index them and this is like the the free-for-all approach and I'm not sure if it's healthy but it's one solution that we're refining right now so if you want to be a standard schema I think basically the the the minimal requirement will be point to hypers and point to the data of the hypers that you are evaluating and then just do your thing and then we need to be able to um maybe just show the data in an external Source or something else Holland could evaluators also receive a hypers cert for their

contributions to hypers cert or is that too recursive no I don't think that's recursive uh I think that makes sense I also think that sense to make hypers search for hypers searchs if you want to think about funding open source software and public goods um but it it it is it it does make it very interesting and if you think about valid dat da when you have a DA that has a lot of members that have um positive ad station or evaluations on their uh track record or in the reputation then that also increases the or theability of that doubt so I do

think there needs to be a feedback loop to evaluators because you also want to be able and this is also a little bit difficult with the whole Mark problem you might also want to be able this is not able to say this is not a good evaluator uh let's see dun D I'm not sure I'm pronouncing it correctly dun does protocol Guild be would protocol Guild be a good fit for hypers served or is it already too famous no I think it makes a ton of sense and I think there are a bunch of other projects where it also would make a ton of sense to start thinking about hypers search you can think about uh ipfs you can think about the the whole e

evm you can also think about research that has that has been very impactful but um no that's no bus or research that has been very impactful I think and I've had this conversation multiple times I think if you look at impact funding in general the the the one of the major milestor that we can achieve is that when somebody opens their email or goes into GitHub they basically get a banner that says wow thank you for creating ipfs 01 we did a funding round based on the work that you did and the impact

that you achieved your funds are available please log in with your GitHub account I mean at when we're at that point we Bridge the whole spaceships that we're building in our space to the uh the people that are doing the work or have already been doing the work in the past so maybe there's a long withed answer to yes yes to protocol Guild and yes to many other products that have been very impactful in the past all right uh there is some more information being shared about hyper

structures uh probably can mint on another hyp for evaluations yeah true um yeah so what I did is I gave you a speedrun of hyps hypers in in an impact funding ecosystem the goal of hypers Sears is that we want to be uh A Primitive or uh basically the the data layer for impact funding and work that people plan to do or have done we um we rely heavily on our ecosystem because a hypers in of itself is simply a claim but we need evaluations and by evaluations you incentivize funding and

this is the whole value Loop that we're trying to uh build for um we ran over a bunch of questions on how to use evaluations um and what it means to have hypers certs um I'd be happy to also dive a little bit more into the code or some more technical details if people find it interesting uh and otherwise we can just chill and jam a little about things you want to do with hypers certs so feel free to un unmute if you have any questions or comments that's a typical silence again

was very helpful uh be back at your presentation um yeah I wonder if anyone want to just dive in more the C we have a uh 10 more minutes left or you guys maybe have other question you can think later and you can tag in B breaker uh in our Channel ask any question or what is whatever you feel comfortable and if you if you don't oh go ahead um yeah maybe I think it's question how how could we measure the

impact of hypers protocol isap huh good one I don't I don't think I have an answer right now um looking at the the op retr pgf round that happened recently you can also see how they are Distributing a lot of funds to a lot of impactful organizations and I think they'll also get the recursive problem because in the future you should be able to also um reward the funer right so if imp impact equals profit and they fund the impact and by their funding there's more

impact then they should have the same loop back and I think for hypers Sears that also makes sense but we are being we're building as a public good um but what's interesting is also think like oh we have a Marketplace and maybe we can also about cutting close to impact equals profit in a way that but I wouldn't have a measure right now maybe maybe you could look in the future and value that has flowed through all the hypers servs in the marketplaces um besides the gitcoin

passport are there any other services or projects that are kind of using this using hypers search as a reputation as a as like a source of reputation or or within reputation um I don't know systems that you know of no not yet um and I I personally feel that this also has to do with the fact that anybody can me an hypur and I also think that this was uh um that is didn't really help the getcoin passport ecosystem because anybody can just Min one so there's there's no reputation really tied to it yet but if you think

about um let's say the web 3B screen again and your contributor on there or your owner fraction you can connect for instance with Guild XYZ and guil XZ supports onchain data and then you can start using it for U for community onboarding other things but at this I don't think anybody's really using anybody else really using hypers for reputation

all right uh if uh no one has question or comment or idea I think we can close for today that sounds uh all good for you guys you can hit the thumbs up all right seems a few thumbs up uh yeah so thank you everyone coming and lastly Baker sh share a link or join the telegram this is hypers telegram right yeah yeah please share a link too and this is the yeah and this

presentation and I also for the developers in here I added some resources where you can find a monor repo and the demo app and we also provide a starter app cool um and the stter app should basically you should be able to Fork it and then just nexs with chakra and it has the SDK embedded in it and it has a simple Min minting form so you can just uh start trying uh around playing around with the SDK and some mins and other things M it sounds great all right so thank you uh be for your presentation and everyone coming uh we will close out today thank you have a nice day bye thank bye bye

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