Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #17 [2019/08/13]

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in terms of the first action item on the coal hard fork coordination update and Tony have a quick update enough not been around so I might be worth just a quick update to where we are with regards to it there in one's heart for coordination does anyone join the core dev calls and can speak to you speak to that where we are at the moment didn't join the time but have created meetings minutes for that and according to doctor the decisions that we made in last meeting

was AIP is 6x 3 ei P 1 through 8 0 e IP 198 v EI p 2 0 4 5 + 4 6 are tentatively accepted but they would be needing some kind of benchmarks to be formally accepted we have divided this into two folks the Istanbul has been divided into two parts so there are part 1 RT e a piece that has been accepted and clients are working on that and they're tentatively accepted would be on the part to that client would be working but maybe after finishing up the part 1 then

you can do it thoroughly as well but they are trying to finish up the first thing first 15:59 VIP that has been withdrawn they would be using retest it to generate reference tests for all the tentatively accepted and accepted VIPs the next meeting is I believe is this Thursday or Friday it may be because of rotation it will end up on Thursday early I mean Michael Thursday late night it is time and last time getting parity were not

available to update but they have updated on all core dev get a channel so they are also in yeah that's that that's the in terms of the three folks I forgot it timing for tea for sir the first vocal will happen first at Def Con and the second fork will happen with 2020 maybe early Jan January or early February and the first one will be

probably on time like around 16 or something okay perfect that's great thank you very much this is brand-new here me yeah how you going bright okay sorry I was late just deaf why I'm here next look man um second gen autumn updates on the action items for the Constantinople post-mortem Charles do you have an update tonight or pager I had there so

if somebody would he want to add some comments or if that is good enough that can be mushed have a look at that take your picture okay I'm just going and to the next agenda item an update on the count of the ACH funding and specifically was the most funding issues that we've had so I understand Brandt you've been looking into funding issues Reston read through the notes from from Blaine right yeah it sounds like I found

a discrepancy in the multi-sig account when you go to the get Cohen account it shows all of the funds donated and then it has another number on the same page that shows the total amount that it totals all those up but that's off by about 3% and the 3% of thousands of dollars it's quite a bit of money but it's not it sounds like they don't know where that 3% is because oh whoa whoa key is how you say to see its name he says there is any fees or anything being taken out so to my understanding they don't know where that 3% of the donated money is going or whether it's perhaps a conditioner yeah yeah I don't know if it

can be a calculation error I hadn't started working on this like a month ago but then I just got completely swamped with a lot of other things we sort of ended up ditching it in the middle but if you actually use like either scan and use the transaction hashes from both sides of the transactions they are not the same that it's terrifically strange like there's not well I just yeah I looked into the transactions and I tried to track down the big that was the the matching funds and that does go through some odd numbers but yeah the the input transactions that one didn't but I

didn't look at any others but but if you just go through and look at the transactions of the incoming money and you total that incoming money that matches the data in the spreadsheet that awoke E is this will William is this you or I'm sorry what Oh walkies last the guy who's giving fun oh that's come in a walkie it's not thanks yeah and so you're William - and William who William Schwab okay cool thanks yes struggling with nature but anyway yes so a walkie sent the spreadsheet and I looked through that spreadsheet and we told up all of the numbers there and all of the numbers that are donated and and so if you go on to that page there the

get the get coins they get coin where the where the let's see I'm going to go to the the notes are in that no let me see where yeah can we pull let's see where does anyone have the link handy to the big the get er issue that that issue for this thing I can pull it I think I've got it so give me a minute and I'll try and pull it down can you put it in the baby to it yeah oh yeah yeah that guy so let me click on that yeah yeah so

if you go so if you look at my last comment oh yeah good you go to the grants page and my last lead to the grants page and it shows 20 or 30 donations from Milwaukee and a bunch of others and then it shows the twenty eight thousand two hundred nineteen die but if you total those transactions all up there and it's three percent less than that total funded number there can you all see that just had a look through it would there

be an issue with because the funding wasn't necessarily all IND I would have been an issue of conversion to know cuz I yeah I I went through and I told all of those other fundings up also and there and I put those in different columns so all I'm counting is is the die and those other are in a different column and they don't match anything and even if you add those numbers nothing matches up with you and also those additional ones should increase that amount by 3% not decrease it because if you total up the total die that's been contributed it's more than the 28,000 it's three percent more than the twenty

eight thousand join our 19 die listed in this total line alright so conclusion we don't want your walks like this at the line yeah there's die that if you total up all the die that's contributed in that list of about 20 contributions it's three percent more than the total die funded list that twenty eight thousand two hundred nineteen died there and I put those numbers on there yeah if you total up all the die in that list it's 29,000 hundred ninety-eight die so and it's only two per so it's off by about almost a thousand died

so where do we go from here yeah well a lot of thought Milwaukee Kevin or Waukee he works with get coin basically it looks to me like a get coin issue we have to figure out why get coin what's happening because 29,000 died is being contributed and listed by get coin is being contributed but then they're only given us credit for twenty eight thousand I have a bit of an instinct this is a total instinct it's a really a gut feeling here I don't so like you know it's not necessarily worth a lot but I have a bit of an instinct that this may be some sort of bug in your Nisswa as then from what I remembered though I'm also I'm going on work I did

a month ago the numbers going into you in a swab worked but is bombing out didn't is Eunice what the one that is that where it converts ether so that's we're not hurting yeah yeah and you have pledges that are going in to get coin but thank you coin is using Eunice WAP to flip things around and then you know swap is sort of out putting it into catheters right but in that end in the one contribution fur let's see there's one contribution they're made by the let's see the 32 that one went through Yoona swap the one matching contribution

but the others are just died it shows how much died each person gay so in other words there and see you can see that first one on there should be one die equals one guy yeah you can see on August 9 Kevin a walkie gay five died in July 10th II gave five died if you take all those exact dies and if you total them all up it's three percent more it's $29,000 that's only showing 28,000 here so so none of that yeah I don't think yeah I don't think that and I don't think any of those die went through that stuff I think only the matching stuff went through that and also that matching resulted in a dye number and

and again it's post dyestuff numbers so I don't think it has anything to do with that previous stuff easier I'll just die numbers at least that yeah again I'm not expert but that's that's my feeling no it makes sense for your son so I guess the big question then is just like I mean does this just mean we're waiting on a walkie I mean as this may be the odd man out immediately propose something it looks like I am freeing up a bit I don't think I should be quite as once I was before um maybe I'll try and get myself back into the flow and see if

we can figure out exactly where the leakages like yeah I guess someone needs to contact get coin and see what you know cuz we're bait it sounds like to me we're using the get coin side to fund this stuff right but it's so it seems like to me we have to reach out to this get coin and say you know given our work he is the founder of get coin yeah okay yeah so let's again coin are Kevin's issue then we need to ask Kevin what why our twenty nine thousand I going in but we're only getting twenty eight thousand now okay so maybe I'll try to be in touch with you friend

after the call I'll try and get myself like amply up to speed and I'll see if I can get in touch with them okay yeah and and on that issue that we just posted I put all that I know in that pose in anything that I know is there so yeah just okay I might I might need you just a bit for clarification to make sure I'm getting things straight sure you know all right great okay action autumn with him to catch up with or to get up speed with listen to on see if you can identify anything else otherwise reach out to Kevin working yep okay excellent any other business that's

a pretty short meeting it seems like we have not you know you know meet in payments so I have added whomsoever I could get for who took the meeting notes for different meetings in the link I'm sharing the link here so Charles maybe you could have a look and Julian Hudson cannot lose the funding okay yeah I can see that there's a couple comments

that Lane would have to answer but I can also review them I was briefly reading through them comment so you mentioned oh and agent Don you're looking at rank on the PR that you mentioned this is not the PR sorry Charles that if you have a look at the recent link that futures just posted and she's just talking with regards to and getting funded for taking notes for the various coordinate and if you're m2 calls they basically there's a

couple Undertaker's including feed yourself we haven't yet being funded from the oh yeah I've been watching the call 22 funding and I don't I'm on the list for that but anyway we haven't received funding for that yet either but yeah yeah I'll do that

okay look through this okay jack yeah just confirm with with everyone Charles before you find anything I'll just have a quick through to look through it make sure that every one of these are legitimate funding requests and I'll put them out in in get her perfect then I can initiate some payments anything else action items just a quick look at the action items

there it's difficult not having the notes from last meeting the only thing that I've got is action on I'm sixteen point one which was nine and brain to investigate finding easier to get coin discrepancy which was about already yeah and have we closed all the action items from meeting fifteen fourteen I'll just have a quick look through and you can you can jump up and say yes on that so action item 14 double-check funding forget coin I guess

let's say missus once I'm going to close that one actually 1424 off with hats in a result to the sidewalk today with the profile funds I'm assuming that's I was always willing to work with line by initiative to perform my accounts of the currency look the same so question actually saw at 16.1 so cred about with the etherium creditors down to decide $100 per bread that's been done so that's closed engaged with Hudson River go in there quirements restreaming of ECI calls I'm assuming that's already done because that's a came back on that

but we were going strong quite some notes on that then the wars issue that's only etherium foundation members can stream calls doing a way that where we landed on that picture just with regards to the streaming of calls we were gonna put some nuts together but then had some turn around and said perhaps we need to be there in foundation members to stream calls well then I don't think anything else happened after that are you aware

of anything else on github and people can record and do things even in cash holders awesome okay so I don't see any other action arms I'm assuming is not any election arms of God one Hudson to work with Charles making a proper first

about the program alright so so that purse cannot so that can be closed now there was nine point one have we separated two fine gentlemen well we have is that the second thing she stole meaning that we concept right the funds yeah then I can see everything's in that same account that we've been looking at that has been the great discrepancy there I guess II know the deposit was actually paid already so it would be separate I guess huh the deposit for prop house not been paid so everything else is cat herder funds well there are there is the remaining amount from the gate coin grant that could still be separated from the I also

had the the other fun thing bonus round essentially so we could simply separate that as well okay one on point or sir I can I'll just guess I'll leave action autumn nonpoint for open an outstanding role and having completed okay that's it guys yeah so one question with that laughs so just for my benefit help me understand because I thought everyone was still in that same account so tell me the account that we were talking to where that issue the the there's the we

went to the link to that issue token total tokens receive not match but report on grants page so in that grants page is is the multi saying account that's listed on there that I thought was the etherium cat herders fund is that so that is the hearing cat herders fun but profile stuff has been separated out of that yep so bicycling we originally created one for the etherium cat herders and then we sorts extra funding for croc pal we unfortunately in doing so gave the same multi-sig wallet which then confused the cat herder funds

with the fog pal funds and then the discrepancy in amounts received came up and became harder to separate what we received from what was actually propel and with your MCAT or funds and that's where it all become a little bit murky okay so which is why we were pretty keen to find out exactly how much it has been received how much we should have received and then finally separate the two so that we don't have any discrepancy in going forward so then in that that issue the the there's see there's the get coin slash web issue

number 43 62 and that has a link to the gif that multi-sig signature account and that's where the discrepancy is anyway I'm just trying to get my hit make sure I understand what monies where so so that's the ether catheters multi-sig account right yep and and some of the cat or some of the prog powell funding went into that and then went out all all of the appropriate funding receives for bitcoin went into that okay and then it came out so basically all the funding there is all cat herder funding and none of its products except full the bonus

amount of money that we received from get coin as well oh okay okay okay thanks for that update no arts no stress anything else Gossett winterize in which we have that live stream thing that Hudson created any other updated it for aetherium cat herder as well thank you one more thing I wanted to say that this thing I just shared a link it's about contribution guideline it's just small stuff that I have added together it's long bad so if you think

it's all good and we can go ahead and add that that would be the community too in Tehran you know I just know from where to start we can keep on adding stuff but that can be added when that's my view you guys can have a look okay anything else guys thanks for that pooja look through that oh I'm gonna close the meeting now guys thanks for everyone for attending next week some of us will be over in Berlin

we'll try and send some photographs to the getter channel to show everyone that we're having fun are you gonna be there Brett I I am I'm in Paris right now I'm over there still that's anybody Oh fantastic well good to catch up nice and bright see everyone have a great day morning evening and yeah each other soon thanks guys