ETH all time high, Client diversity and more - The Daily Gwei Refuel #235 - Ethereum Updates

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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the daily gray refuel where recap the latest news in the ethereum ecosystem i'm your host anthony sosano and today's the 21st of october 2021 all right everyone let's get into it so we briefly hit all-time high on air the eth usd pair today just before actually very very briefly though you can see here on coinbase it basically just touched it and then we immediately dumped off it and what was like you can see here on the one hour candle like we just we basically touched it and then dumped all the way back to 4100 ish and kind of haven't gone back to all-time high at time of recording just yet but the most hilarious thing about this is that i put out a tweet saying welcome back to all-time high eighth we missed you and then literally i

it would have to be like 15 seconds later i just replied to the tweet with oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] lol because like i put this tweet out and i was just like i i'm known for being a top signal like i actually had like a hunch that people were using me um as like a counter signal to trade against i i mean i i don't know how much truth there is to that but it happens so often that it can't just be a coincidence and then it happened and i was like yep of course of course it had to happen you know eth always loves to do this right gives us the all-time high and then rugs us and the funny thing is it wasn't actually ether dumped it was bitcoin so bitcoin just i saw i was looking at the charts and i just saw

bitcoin start dumping and i'm like no no and then it dumped i was like oh my god no i've done it again so i mean it's good that i can laugh about it i guess but like this just feels like a leverage clear to me um the leverage in the system was getting high again people obviously people feeling euphoric uh kind of levering up because we you know btc broke through its all-time high and eth i mean touched it now it's come down off it so i mean i don't think this is anything major like leverage clearing always does this i mean every time you see something like this it it's basically people getting liquidated um a lot of the time because of the fact that when people get liquidated you know that kind of has to be sold into the market to kind of cover the debts and

stuff like that uh so you see these sharp drops um hopefully by the time you guys are watching this we're well and truly into the all-time high but i mean you know outside of that outside of me being a top signal it's just good to see eth back above four thousand dollars in general right like it's been what almost six months uh i think may 10th was when we hit the all-time high last time and people were kind of like debating over the last six months is it over like is the is the bull market over we're gonna go into another two year bear market you know what's going to happen blah blah and i mean you you'll remember uh if you're a regular kind of refuel watcher or refuel enjoyer as we say uh that i haven't been bearish at all like even i remember like doing the video

when when eighth crashed from like what was it like uh 4 000 the first time or something like that or crashed all the way down to 1700 it was a pretty brutal crash and i remember saying you know i didn't expect it to crash this much but i didn't think that the bull market was over um and you know i also believe that we're not going to have these two year bear markets anymore it's just this this there's just too much going on in the ecosystem but i mean it just feels amazing that ethie's back here and it doesn't even feel like six months really like uh it's it's october 21st right now actually lockdown in melbourne ends in like less uh sorry just over an hour from time of recording which is exciting for me as well um and it's just funny i've been in lockdown the whole time but

it really doesn't feel like it's been six months and it's just amazing to see like how how much has happened since then as well i mean think about what was kind of like what eath looked like um in may and then what it looks like today so essentially we had one five five nine go live right we in august like august fifth or sixth whatever it was we've burned 588 thousand eighth which is 2.5 billion dollars ish uh the layer 2 rollout has well and truly uh picked up you know a lot of steam we have like almost four billion dollars locked in layer twos right now uh we've had people use them you know enjoy them uh and it's just been great to see all that there nfts on ethereum went absolutely bonkers like captured everyone's attention just went crazy right like lots and lots of

growth of the nft economy uh and then you had like the the merge roadmap coming to much clearer view as well like we're we're basically all steam ahead towards the merge now um and we've had the resurgence of d5 as well like i know i've said before that i don't think the d5 2.0 term is anything but a marketing term but uh we've still had like a resurgence in d5 interest and things like that which is i think in part being spurred by the d5 2.0 stuff but also a little bit of layer two stuff as well but all of this has happened since it was last at its all-time high and it kind of reminded me and made me think back to like all the stuff that happened during 2018 and 2019 and even 2020 while eth was below its old all-time high of 14 20. um and you

know it's just amazing how many things happen uh during bear markets or like during sideways periods or during kind of like down periods it doesn't really matter in ethereum we keep building no matter what even in the the darkest depths where there was like no funding for anyone everyone was running on fumes money wasn't there we were still building kind of like these revolutionary and awesome products so yeah i mean that's why it's impossible for me to be bearish like i literally cannot be bearish like i i've tried um you know just as like a thought experiment to like think to myself you know what's the bear case for ethereum and i just can't find one um you know if i had a gun to my head and people were asking me what you know to give a bear case i would simply say well um you know

ethereum doesn't solve with scaling issues and then it loses its kind of like market share just to some other platform and it fades away but the thing is is that like it's already solved the scaling issues it's just a matter of rolling rolling it out and getting people to onboard it onto them so yeah i don't know if you guys have like in join the discord channel and like try and try and convince me try and give me an actual bear case for eighth because i just cannot see one and that's why i buy eighth all the time it's why i just spent so much time in this ecosystem is that i just can't find one and that's exactly why after even a week after we crashed that big and everyone was calling for like triple digit eighth and for the bear market to happen again i

was steadfast in saying no i don't see this happening we're in the early adopter phase we're not at mass adoption just yet we're in the early adopter phase right now and uh there's just so much happening so much growth to be had it's just impossible so here's to a you know little touch of the all-time high at around 43.75 here let's hope that we go back there and go beyond uh sooner rather than later um but i am amped like i am super pumped about this super pumped to be at all-time high i'm also very very happy that i'm out of lockdown as of you know an hour from now um you know it's almost midnight so technically just wait until tomorrow but i mean for those of you who don't know melbourne in australia has been in lockdown for over 270 days in total not not in a row in

total and without crypto i would have gone insane like uh seriously it's it's been been brutal like we haven't been able to do anything it's like a hard lockdown no restaurants no you know shopping centers movie theaters no going to the city and everything like that you'll remember like my birthday plans got rugged because we went back into a lockdown like twice in a row and my birthday plans were to like go into the city and kind of like spend some time in the city because i actually live pretty far away from the city and never really get out there so um yeah and i'm just really looking forward to traveling next year as well so hopefully i can meet a lot of you i definitely do want to do a daily grade meet up at a um at a bar or something in the in in the melbourne cbd so that'll

probably happen maybe next month maybe december we'll have to see how it goes there um i saw that kind of like even interstate travel is going to be opening up in november as well so looking forward to seeing to seeing people there but anyway i'm going to move on to some other stuff to talk about today so client diversity uh so michael sproul who you will remember that i featured his client diversity threads on the refill before he basically put out a tweet thread uh uh an update for client diversity on the eth2 main net now uh you can read this throttle billing to the youtube description but one chart that really caught my eye was this one so you know you remember how i told you that prism has like a lot of um a lot of network share right they have uh they had like uh at 70 at one point

which is bad we don't want them having uh we don't want any one client having more than 66 percent or even close to 66 which is two-thirds of the network for the reasons i've outlined previously and you can see here that uh the efforts that we've been making to improve client diversity have been having an impact you can see that uh the prism has been going down so from the seventy percent peak it is now under 60 which is awesome to see and then you can see that that um lighthouse uh he has been growing a bit as well it went from like just eyeballing it here it seems about 17 to almost 19 now um uh and then uh i think like uh uncertain and unknown have been growing too now obviously it's kind of like uh impossible to get a 100 clear

view of the entire network and of client diversity and things like that but um it's just great to see like the fact that that we're getting better at this at this and we've got a way to track it too like michael's doing amazing work here being able to track this sort of stuff because we definitely need to know uh you need to know this for network health and we definitely need to keep track of it and we also need to just keep encouraging everyone to run minority clients uh like taku and and um and nimbus and even lodestar at this point and i mean even lighthouse like but the thing is lighthouse already has a pretty big market share i guess like at um 19 but i mean compared to prism it's it's very small so definitely any of the other clients will do right now and as

i've said before that's not to say that prism isn't an amazing client it definitely is right um and that's why people use it they're amazing team they've got an amazing onboarding process but uh we definitely the other teams are just as good in my eyes they're they're just as good their clients are just as good you're not gonna make less money by running one of the other clients or anything like that so yeah once again encouraging you all to run a minority client or change to one if you're staking on your own and encourage your staking service provider to also change away from the majority if they are using a majority client but yeah go read this twitter thread from michael it's got a lot of other great info in it as well so awoke from git coin uh announced a new kind of like initiative uh called

the greatest larp which is basically they describe it here as an alternate reality game an experiment in network storytelling an ambitious gambit for public goods funding a shelling point for the hopeful in a dystopic world a novel little uh slice of the metaverse fair launched at liz con 2021 by kevin o'keefe austin griffith and git coin dao's moonshot collective so essentially what this is is basically a series of kind of kind of like comics and nfts about anon versus moloch and you can kind of mint these nfts and read the comic books and all that sort of stuff and and i i guess i can see the little video here i'm going to get more involved with this and essentially you know get coin and public goods funding has has always been about uh fighting off off moloch essentially and you know there's nfts

and there's also physical figurines as well um unfortunately i didn't get to it before i got completely priced out i think like they're going for over five eighth now and i'm as much as i love my figurines i'm not going to spend over five eighth on on one i wouldn't even do that for for like a one piece figurine all the ones behind me are one piece figurines that's a lot of my like 20 grand right 20 grand us for um uh for for kind of like figurine there but um it's still pretty cool to see this it's cool to see you know the thing is the moloch stuff came from like the bear market where essentially people felt like the money wasn't going to the right kind of like initiatives the money was going to the wrong people the wrong kind of projects i mean it came off the back of

eos raising like four billion dollars in their ico and it also mounted to nothing and as i've said before the eos um all the ether they raised they sold it and they bought bitcoin with it so it really extracted a lot of value out of the ethereum ecosystem um and and you know because of that like it just birthed kind of like this thing where we're like okay we need to do better with public goods funding especially bitcoin came along um you know git coin's mission is to defeat moloch is it kind of like defeat um the the god of moloch and to make sure that we can fund the the right kind of projects and initiatives out there and it's great to see them doing kind of like more experiments like thegreatestlaw.com which you should definitely check out uh read the comics they're actually really good um you know

you can order yourself if you want to spend the money i mean i think there's only like five of these things the physical statues or you can pick up uh the one of one nft i don't know if it's still for sale if it's still being bid on or whatever right now um but yeah definitely uh go check it out because you'll be able to support bitcoin grants and as you guys know i'm a big proponent of git coin and bitcoin grants and all that sort of stuff there so definitely check it out if you haven't already so yoga yuga from coinbase here uh who i've talked about before uh put out another tweet today basically saying the erp 1559 transaction pricing algorithm we developed for coinbase consistently outperforms all other major exchanges saving us and our customers thousands of eth

so he's basically highlighting a dashboard from that trent van ness put together the one that i highlighted the other day and i think my camera is cutting it off a little bit here oh actually there you go you can basically see here that uh on the on the right-hand side you've got like a list of exchanges coinbase is in black um and then the rest of them are in different colors and you can see how much money coinbase is saving by using kind of like one five five nine style transactions and having their own little algorithm that allows them to kind of like save themselves and use this money by by using this and you can see the other ones that haven't implemented it yet like binance and and kucoin and a bunch of the others they're much worse off i mean just eyeballing it here that orange

looks like binance they seem to be way worse off like a much much like their medium priority gas fee can can vary between 50 to 100 for um for coinbase it seems it looks much much lower than that for the for the medium priority gas fee uh so yeah great to see 1559 working as intended and giving exchanges which obviously process a lot of um transactional activity on the ethereum network giving them a way to save money as well so i mean this has been like a uh i guess like a narrative bus stop for people who out there who said oh one five five nine increased gas prices for everyone it's really really bad blah blah i've talked about it in the refuel numerous times about why that wasn't the case at all and it's just great to have some hard data around this

and actual proof that you can just like irrefutable proof because it's all unchained that you can show people and basically say look how can you say that 1.559 increased gas prices and actually made it a worse user experience when you have the biggest exchange in the us and one of the biggest in the world telling you that they're saving money uh since one five five nine transactions kind of um came into came into play here so yeah i mean this is the stuff that i always reference whenever someone kind of comes to me with a question and asked me about one five five nine i always say it wasn't one five five nine that increased gas prices it's just the fact that it went live the same time as as the nft kind of boom took off and we had essentially all these kind of things um

play out at once so network demand went crazy and one five five nine obviously um you know i i i think helped with that as well because it actually made it so that you barely have to speed up transactions anymore i don't think i've sped up more than maybe a handful of transactions since this went live and i do a lot of transactions so yeah i'm just amazing to see some hard data around one five five nine and the user improvements outside of the fee burning like i always love to see that all right so and oh yeah on a follow-up of that like trent here basically uh uh said that while it's in exchanges that don't support type two transactions or one five five nine star transactions are significantly overpaying on their priority fees up to 10 to 20 times so as i just said before you can see in this

chart like the overpayments here but trent actually quantified it up to 20 10 to 20 times by not using one 559 style transactions that is not negligible right that's huge huge cost for users huge costs for exchanges i don't know what these exchanges are doing but they need to get on board it's not even hard to do like uh unless they've got like a really bad system but the thing is is that coinbase has actually been notoriously known for having a lot of legacy tech and a lot of um a lot of old tech because they've been around for so long uh so it's surprising to me that a newer exchange like binance and maybe even ftx on this list no like binance is probably i guess like the the the new str and the most premier exchange it's just i mean it's funny to see that but

and the thing is is that like those tips aren't being burned either like if it's the priority fee is the tip so that's not being burned either that's just going straight to miners so unless binance likes that and wants us to keep paying miners more money and hurting their users who knows but yeah i hope they get with the program pretty soon so alchemy uh basically a platform for i mean so the easiest way to describe alchemy is that it's very similar to infuria it's basically uh full node infrastructure for uh for ethereum for other chains and they're very very popular but they put together this thread today where they basically are publicizing metrics on some of the crazy growth they've seen within the polygon developer ecosystem so you can see here thousands of teams and applications already built on polygon and the number

of active developers is growing two times every couple of months so you can see a team's using polygon doubling every two months it was basically on near zero in june now it's up to over 2000 in october 2021 uh and then you can see month-on-month usage uh growth uh reaching 145 as of october uh and a bunch of other kind of like stats around here about 40 of projects are using polygon and ethereum parallel while 60 are building on polygon alone suggesting that there may be a healthy future for polygon as a complement to an ethereum as an ecosystem in its own right now the cool thing is about this is that as i've mentioned plenty of times before about polygon and again disclosure i'm an advisor but as i mentioned plenty of times before polygon isn't just the pos

chain obviously this is all pretty much around the pos chain but they have these suite of scaling solutions that they're developing and have launched before like hermes is live now um ey nightfall is live they have a lot more coming on the zk front all of these developers that are already working in the polygon ecosystem they can easily be onboarded onto this other stuff like these roll ups and these actual true l2s and stuff like that so this is what i mean by polygon being socially aligned with ethereum it means that the the people who at the most value the developers are there already they're in the ethereum ecosystem they're in the ethereum family there's no requirement to kind of like poach them from another ecosystem there's no kind of like tribalism there's basically those developers being like hey there's new infrastructure for

us to deploy to let's go and do it and they already are familiar with the polygon systems with the polygon team with any of their bd teams and stuff like that so this is just incredibly healthy and i love seeing this growth especially around teams and developers um uh kind of like launching projects and you know the funny thing is is that i think the same thing is going to happen with with layered twos where i actually think that eventually layer one there's going to be basically no new projects launching on layer one ethereum they're all just going to be launching on layer twos and that is actually the the proper way uh proper end state for ethereum at the end of the day that is not um not not something bad uh but it's interesting to see that's already been happening with polygon because and we

all know ethereum layer 1 is not a a not a cheap place it is very expensive place and i mean i've spoken about modular blockchains nausea i'm not going to go over it again but that's okay right and then there's you know we have star net going live in alpha on mainnet next month of ovm 2.0 going live later this month and i'm sure they're going to remove the light list arbitrary keeps growing you know there's so many of these projects going to layer twos that i do believe that eventually maybe even within the next year we won't see many projects launching on layer one ethereum anymore um which will actually be fantastic because we want users to have a nice first experience with ethereum we don't want them going to ethereum layer one and seeing like a 50 unisop transaction fee as their first interaction with

ethereum and then being like what the hell is this crap and going using something else we want them using layer 2 and we don't even want we don't want them to kind of like have to experience the layer one uh high price there so so yeah really really cool to see this uh kind of and i guess shout out to alchemy for putting together this thread here so set protocol uh announced today that they have crossed 500 million dollars in tvl which is an awesome achievement here obviously i'm a bit biased i mean i used to work at set and full time and i'm still an advisor to sets but uh i think it's great to see the continued growth of an asset management protocol because i think asset management is not something that gets spoken about too much but it's definitely something that he's needed for mass adoption most

people want to kind of delegate their i guess investments and and management of their assets to kind of like an autonomous system or to like uh someone that'll manage it for them and you know index cop is building on set protocol and there's a large chunk of this tvl and that's the products that they offer like the d5 pulse index and and the fly products and and mvi and stuff like that so all that sort of stuff kind of like taking it together you kind of like um get this tv out here which is 500 million so i guess yeah congrats to them on that if you haven't checked out you know sets products themselves or index callers products i highly recommend doing so uh obviously as i said i'm biased because i'm close to the teams uh but they build awesome products and i i kind of recommend

checking them out so status so for those who don't know status is a kind of like older ethereum project did an an ico in 2017 building a uh kind of like mobile wallet app with secure messaging and browsing and all that sort of stuff but they actually build or have a team that's building the nimbus clients you've the nimbus eth2 client so you've probably heard me talk about just before about like nimbus and and before i've mentioned nimbus plenty of times so they're actually part of the ether to effort as well which is really cool um and so today they actually posted a little bit of a blog post here about modular ethereum so so this kind of like terminology is starting to really take off now obviously um popularized by paulina not created by them apparently it was that the term was

actually created back in 2018 by some other folks but you know popularized by by paulinha and then less like myself and bankless and a few other people have been sharing sharing the kind of like vision out there but expect to see more of this more of these blog posts that basically reference modular blockchains and modular ethereum and kind of like detail what it is why it's exciting why it's like a paradigm shift and having you know they linked to all of paulina's work here that they linked to to my blog post and my video with david which is awesome and vitalik's post as well vitalik was years ahead of all of us on this sort of stuff he's just been at the forefront but i'm just you know i suggest reading this post there's probably not going to be too much new information in there if you've been you

know a daily uh refuel kind of like listener or watcher because i've spoken about this stuff a lot but uh i just love seeing the narrative shift like for me when i want something to kind of like catch fire when i want like a new piece of knowledge to spread as fast as possible i try to spread it through narratives that's what i've been doing lately with the modular blockchain stuff i've been tweeting a lot about it spreading it in my newsletter spreading it on the on the refuel because i want it to be the common terminology that people use when they talk about scaling i don't want to modular versus monolithic blockchains um i don't want people to to kind of like think in the old terms anymore where it's kind of like oh you know layer one versus layer two all that sort of stuff

i want people to think in terms of like modular chain consensus security as one module data availability is another module and execution as another module and all of those together make a awesome scalable ecosystem where everything just like works very seamlessly obviously over the long term you know that's that's going to happen it's not going to happen overnight but that's kind of like what i mean by changing the narrative making sure people are on board with it that they understand it and kind of like evolving the terminology as the ecosystem evolves as well so great to see status publishing this blog post today so i only came across this yesterday uh but basically influence which is a strategy space mmo uh that is kind of

like uh building within crypto announced that they're actually going to launch on starknet so this is awesome i mean this uh i guess like is the first game i believe that has committed to launching on net and i'm really really bullish on crypto gaming when done right of course i've discussed before how i think that just because a game um you know kind of puts crypto in its name and adds nfts doesn't make it a good game so i'm gonna have to kind of like you know reserve judgment to see how how good influence um kind of i guess uh turns out um as part of a game here but uh it's just great to see that they've announced that they're launching on starknet so and they detail here what does this enable for players obviously high scalability and low fees instant actions deeper mechanics and and crew

assignments as well you can read kind of like this blog post for more detail on all on all of that there um i think the game right now is actually live um not on stock net but live and in the web browser you can go play it you can go play around with it but this is just the beginning i i mean crypto game is going to be so massive and as i said like adding crypto doesn't make the game automatically good but there's just such a wide kind of like design space now for crypto based games that um i just can't wait to see what happens like i know there's tons of projects are working on like every channel not just the ethereum or it's l2s but like other chains as well there's just so many of these kind of like projects are working on gaming and there's

obviously been successes like axiomfinity and things like that uh but i mean we've really only scratched the surface of what's possible here and as a you know huge kind of like former gamer like i don't have much time these days but i do play games from time to time still i really want to see someone crack that that nut of making a really really good game doesn't feel like you're grinding while also incorporating kind of like crypto into it nfts into it you know played to earn mechanics and making it so that it's it's viewed like by the mainstream and played by the mainstream because right now you know even actually infinity for example is not considered a quote-unquote mainstream game even though they they're massive right absolutely massive i would say that it is not considered something that i see talked about like on

on just like mainstream places like it's not talked about um really too much in the mainstream media it's not talked about in the mainstream gaming channels that are frequent all that sort of stuff um and that's not because it's a bad game or anything like that it's just because we haven't crossed that that kind of like threshold yet but i think we will and i think more and more games coming out we'll do that and get more people interested and then it'll just be a snowball effect where eventually maybe it'll take a few years to get there maybe it takes five ten years to get there but eventually it'll be weird to launch a video game without having some kind of crypto element um you know tied to it now the thing is is that i i can see the dark side of this as well where

basically these massive game companies see this and are like okay well we can make a lot of money um by doing this how do we just abuse the game and how do we like make a quote unquote good enough game but add all these play to earn features to it where we can suck as much money out of the player as possible it already happened with mobile game gaming right where it's basically you know in-app purchases everywhere these games make billions of dollars a year um you know they're quote-unquote free-to-play but they have people that pay a lot of money to to play them and to advance in them and they're basically engineered to be money sinks they're they're more like uh i guess like a slot machine than an actual video game i am weary about that happening with crypto gaming i actually think it will happen or you know it may

already have happened to be honest like um but at the same time you gotta take the good with the bad right uh there's gonna be a lot of good it's probably gonna be a lot of bad just the same with the tokens that we see right all the tokens i mean there's plenty of token scams out there but that doesn't take away from the legit projects doing their own token and having their own token and stuff like that and you know there's plenty of rug pulls and other things like that out there but again that doesn't take away from the legit projects so from that point of view i'm excited to see you know where the crypto gaming kind of like space goes but i'm also cautiously optimistic i think there's going to be a lot of scams unfortunately but i guess in crypto we're used to that by now

right all right so finally here just wanted to give a quick shout out to cryptowife who's done this awesome i guess nft for bankless so i guess for bankless and and uh and andrew yang so if you listen the other day uh bankless had andrew yang on their podcast and he seems to be making crypto a i guess like major part of his platform so his party is called the forward party it's in the u.s obviously um and he seems to want to incorporate crypto as a major part of that so there's this nft now that i guess like andrew yang tweeted out about this as well that you can kind of go to zora um and and kind of like uh a bid on and all the proceeds will be donated to the forward party uh and and kind of like go towards their efforts of um i

guess like uh uh playing in the political sphere right um now obviously i'm not an american or anything like that but you can see the bottom right here there's a little bit of a daily gray kind of um logo there which is awesome to see um but you know i was listening to andrew yang on on the podcast and you know i've been following yang for quite a while like he ran he was in the presidential race in 2020 um you know he wasn't gonna win or anything like that but uh he definitely brought a lot of ideas to the table and i think that he really resonates with me who you know on the political spectrum i don't fall really left or right i'm i'm kind of like centrist or at least i try to be i i try to balance all things in life

that's kind of like a mantra that i have maybe i'm you know maybe i'm i'm i'm a little bit naive in that but i just try to keep it balanced like i think if you we are too far towards like the quote unquote left or right you you kind of lose sight of things and you can't think as clearly um and i think andrew yang is actually a perfect embodiment of that and obviously i don't agree with everything he says and i don't expect everyone to agree with everyone else about everything um but like i'm really really happy to see that the crypto space is just getting more representation within the political sphere it's not just being kind of like andrew young there's been a bunch of other kind of like i guess politicians in the us stepping up to the plate embracing crypto making it part of their

platform but yang has a pretty great a pretty big platform and he has a big platform with a lot of people who are definitely uh more on the kind of like progressive side of things where they're they're already kind of like really big fans of all the technology that's happening all this you know space travel kind of like um anti-aging tech all the kind of futurist stuff you always hear about so it's great to see him kind of like embracing crypto as part of that as well and the bankless guys david and ryan have done an amazing job kind of like uh i guess uh talking to him about it getting him on the podcast you know keeping him involved um and david in particular i think has been a massive proponent of yang since since last year as well so yeah if you want to

bid on this nft i'm not sure if bidding is still open but you can go check it out anyway it's on zora and it'll be linked in the youtube description but on that note i think i'm gonna call it there for today everyone so thank you again for listening and watching be sure to subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet give that video a thumbs up subscribe to the newsletter join the discord channel and i'll catch you all tomorrow thanks everyone