CryptoKaiju - 1 Year In (almost) + Q&A

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Music. S o. I'm Oliver to give you some background myself. A bit of a space now for about six years, loads of weird things in the crypto space on a new cycle. Coin journal for a bit. I was a minor at one point. But today I'm going to talk to you about our toy project well being and it will be even NFT focus. No real reason to kind of explain how NFT s work.

So I'm mostly talk about kind of what we've done in the first year help budget works and the reason really, why exists? So Chris kaiju is really, really young way actually, only started like last November. I think it was November 28th 2018 on Ashley's. Even numbers were actually really quite small. But in under 12 months we had to sell five different batches of toys, um, and with different colour ways and skews. That's about nine different styles, which is pretty good for a toy company thought we've sold over.

We've mated 463 NFT service is still growing and doesn't actually include the keys that was still menting or the deal that we just did with the Sacramento Kings of the NBA kaiju, on one target to hit around 700 by the end of the year. Interest Live team members. This is actually pretty small, but in terms of what we actually do and it being really, really fairly very niche, it's not bad. It's not bad for a toy company in the first year to get that many toys out, so we're pretty pleased with the results so far.

210 different individual or 210 individual address. His own kaiju, which shows how engaged are small community, is with people returning to bite by the new toys. You can kind of see the top. We've kind of got some fairly big holders. One of those, though, is May ITT's. Just know that I hold my own toys. It's simply a case of we. Actually, a swell is kind of but as well as kind of crypto people being interested in us. We also get get quite a bit of interest from natural, just vinyl toy people who have absolutely no interest in Ethereum whatsoever, to the point where we actually say, Hey, have you gotten Ethereum addressed? Similar What? So we just kind of set him disclaimed. It says we're gonna store here on a treasure If you have actually doing to claim your NFT. Just get in touch.

Another interesting things point out is that we never have the rank on DAP sites. So some of you may never have heard us because heard of us because we never ranking high on any depth sites because we actually just way take payments by a coinbase. Commerce, not by a smart contract just used smart contract, Actually, many NFT. Um, so we have no transaction volume whatsoever, So I'll talk a little bit about kind of why we approach this in the first place. S Oh, I don't know if anyone's familiar with BlockRocket on KnownOrigin.

Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Um, so BlockRocket KnownOrigin are both based in Manchester on Willow. Hello. I think I'll need it. It's really hot pad on a white. So. So I'm out with those guys. Just before they launched in 2000 17. 2018 on we talked a little bit about what you're gonna accomplish. I really liked it. I've been Justin vinyl toys for years and years and years. I've been collected so much weird, wonderful stuff since I was in my teens.

Um, I sort of mentioned at the time. Hey, we should try and actually do this, Sir. Vinyl toys building kind of provenance products around vinyl toys to improve how we handle authenticity or provenance could be a cool idea at the time. It was a little bit a little bit of far fetched idea, but I spent a summer kind of working on it. We came up a pretty good solution. Um, but it was hard way had to look at these four things to begin with, how to actually make it so unique. That's not a simple I should actually think we we built way.

Put out a kind of release of 101 100 toys. You can't make every single one of those physically unique in terms of economy of scale. It's absolutely impossible. I think every single factory in the world would laugh you out the doors and you turned up and said, Yeah, I want 100 toys, but each toe look different. Um, how you actually insure that physical toys for saying one representing the blockchain, That's pretty hard. You could have you could have that guy, But how would you actually know that that guy is the guy in the blockchain representing NFT, You know, very identity, like an identical version next to it. How do we stop people swapping the physical providence? You see this quite a lot with designer vinyl toys, so people will I actually have a real real version of the toy.

Well, then go and buy a fake, but they'll have a real packaging. Will just package up the fake version. The real version on Just flip it. How much to get around that? And how do we actually make a toy unique on your theory and blockchain? How'd you actually even link it all together? So kind of solution? We came up with what we looked at so many different things from etching. I'm just playing and packaging. We thought originally you could just put it in the packaging but may issue There was just what? The packaging again. No one's realistically going toe fake these because they're really, really small room.

It's 100 pieces and get tossed mortars to fake it. You actually ever made back. But we approached the project from the idea of actually our provenance or if you actually were big Toy company, how you'd actually work with something like this, A national solution. We came up with wass NFT tax, but even in artsy types and no great solution, at least on the officer from the outset. Look at him. Most tags have no actual unique identifying.

If they do, it's quite easy. Just overwrite it. Don't talk like data, Um, and more about you could just tear him off. So going back to the original point there, he had a fake Juan and Rheal one. You could just tear it off. Just stick it on another one, and you really wouldn't know the difference. So we did a lot of lot of reading around that on we found a company who does chips and especially Phillips is a spinoff of Philip's, an ex PE. They've got some really good ships that actually have unique identify us. Collision measures in place to Teo ensure that every single cereal, every single chip has a unique serial number.

So we actually decided just to use those. The simplest solution was gonna be that we'd used the unique identify pixel. Might. Walt's coming? I don't know. She just knocking on the window. Um So what would you say? Unique. Identify in terms of a chip on, we would been attached, but you don't get around the issue, but it could be unique. But you could just tell it. I'll think of something else and that would then in theory, be attached to the NFT S O. We worked for factory, who actually just built who built is in a way that the aerial kind of goes around the chip. So the second actually try and remove it. It will tear.

Didn't do too well with that on the first toy. And I'll talk about that a little bit more detail when we get to that slide. But we are getting better after demonstrated downstairs before, I really wish I hadn't really wish I'd kept it so I could demonstrate it. It was a damaged toy, actually demonstrated Have it The tamper resistant snus works. Yes, that's kind of the solution to in a minute to use the unique identify it. And we used that within the smart contract, the contract is made up pretty much of unique identifying air token I d. And then all the fluffy stuff like token name, the actual kind of image of it or the treat on DH skills, which we use which very symbols, like cat tributes on crypto kitties just start their I p affair. So it still completely decentralised on.

But we just don't block up the smile contract with all that stuff. So I'm gonna talk you through kind of the toys we've worked on on and give you a little bit more detail on how things work and the sort of issues that we faced when developing this stuff. So I actually have one of these with me because I don't take him anywhere because I've only got one about losing it. Genesis were our first toy, and it was based on the physical print and NFT. We're actually doing KnownOrigin, which is bad. Genesis was limited 220 pieces over to call a ways with purple being rarer. And that's all that around 40 days.

Um, examples of it. Give it. Give me ideas. Pretty recent, Sawyer was the Halloween one. If you see that the actual tags saw stocks at the bottom, it's it is hard to remove, and you all pretty likely to actually break it. But you could get around. It's no secures. We kind of liked it. But people really, really, really like this toy salon 40 days and then we're going for around about $300 on the secondary market. It's made from soft vinyl as well, which is different to a lot of the stuff we worked with recently.

That self paints a lot of different problems. Yeah, sort now become like the design were most synonymous with on DH. There will never release this toy again. We have used but the diners dinosaur again using recent Sacramento Kings collaboration on We've used it in the glow in the dark because people just keep demanding it. So the second guy we did wass Well, I'll give you some advice to start off with. You're from Manchester. Don't give something a Japanese name because you can't You can't pronounce. It s so we just call it Giant Token. But it's actually giant talking or something. It's Yeah, you're from Manchester. Just keep things straight games.

So Jane Slocum was released the beginning of March. It came in two different flavours Bitcoin Ethereum. But you kind of see from this way place a bit more of an emphasis on the Providence and actually getting it right. So it actually introduce piece off wells that we have on the keys as well. Just attack to sit properly. It's really, really hard to remove these without breaking the aerial. So toys made from a mix of hard and soft vinyl on DH. Like I say, it's the first time where we really hope. Overhauled the tag, making sure, but actually sits in a well for design.

Is the Wu really scary eyes? Crypto keys. Wait. We got a lot of people asking us kind of how we actually came across this because it's data. It's crypto Kitty's. They're kind of the biggest were the biggest NFT go in and we are relatively small and make vinyl toys. And how it came about they knew about us. Anyway, there was kaiju in their office. I think a few people that work to data had him in your office to begin with way approached him back in March. And we said, Hey, how about we do this? We said we've actually got an open source licence. So if anybody actually ever wants to work like a dapper property overlooking NFT licence, it's amazing you can do so much with you could actually just commercialise your own products based on their designs as long as you crypto graphically, the asset up, Tio.

Okay, but they were really good to work with on, way didn't ask the approaches an official collaboration to begin with, But a team were really good in actually helping us, even with moulding and just sending them prototypes and saying Hey, what you think of this? Um, yeah, better this. But way had to kind of give it a bit of a different approach. We've casually obviously we were like a standard kaiju. Obviously we own everything we meant Token. Exactly how we want. So we have control over kind of name description.

The only kind of valuable really is the NFC with kitties. Love you. There's a little bit different because it wasn't our property, So it was a couple of different considerations. So the first thing wass do we actually want the kitty to you actually physical cat just to be after one of, like, a generic cat that we own. We don't really like that approach. We didn't think it was really a spirit of a project. Where, as you know, was it actually an NFT backs in a minute, We would just be sort of making an NFT on top of crypto keys. That would just be this called generic cat.

So what we actually did well, because we really like to make our lives terribly, terribly difficult. Was actually what our bread a load of similar cats. So we were like hundreds and hundreds of cats that I ever looked like that a lot like the blue one. It's pretty interesting when you do that in terms of looking at traditional toys and then look in a kind of Ethereum in NFT s and building cuts off decentralised toys. You actually have to factor really success rate for breeding a cat that looks similar to your vinyl toy into actual price point, which is really weird. That's when you start to reassess your life. You're like water. Come, I do it. We're pushing it. Alright. Really relatively high success rate. As you sort of get down the generations, you're smashing them out.

Um, so what we kind of did was a couple of different ways we could have taken you kind of kind of approach to crypto Kitty's thing. What we actually decided to do was like a blend That sounds horrible, but we sort of put crypto getting into a blender on, then sort of merged in with what we've got. So what we end up with is we basically pull it open in via crypto keys or OpenSea. He's a P I. So we pull in from the actual crypto Kitty's idea where, pulling from the kitty idea way, pulling things like date of birth colour for a second day class.

Basically all of the details that we had in our own streets over the top. So we've got the NFC. Andi got the traditional kaiju traits which we use, which our skill on DH class. Um, so you're basically, I can't see him. Must have cut it off. But you can also see a lot. We can sort, Actually, you can see what? We're actually got a kitty I d there, but in a smart contract you can actually see a link like Lincoln. I profess to be actual original kissy. So we kind of got a kitty and then sort of change this over Sort of key on steroids with these additional traits onto it.

When we saw you have conclude this batch, we aim to send everyone the kitty as well. So a lot of people are getting these in a post in a minute. If there's anyone here called Sparrow Yes, Austral toy. I'm staying ensured. It was like, I am not taking away. Uh, that's just that's also your toy. Uh, thank you. Uh, I can indeed.

So, yeah, you could literally, if you were to actually do it. You were just scanned a foot. Give you any f c i d. You type into our doubt on it will bring up that, um they have a kind of issue we faced with crypto Kitty's was we're kind of minting this hybrid Topal. This kind of hybrid NFT Dora's people calling these days metal NFT is, I guess, but it would just look like a crypto key. It would, ah, you have the cryptic it be pulling in the crypto kids away information, including the image that we're just like a crypto keep CryptoKaiju. So we've got a bit of discussion with them, and we had a bit of discussion amongst ourselves about what we could add in. And we actually just decided that the differentiator would just be a nice little bandana.

Yeah, it's a little weird consideration that you don't really think about until you actually quite different OpenSea. Yes, it is. It's so like Yeah, Yeah, basically seeps it up. Seeps up. Okay. It's also pinned my k. Quite a lot of them without a minute. Bob is an interesting way to approach it. It seems to have worked. The thing is, you know, deftest licence is really, really good, but it's very star licence. Where are these sort of walls that you have to sort of work within?

It is quite difficult to find a solution that made them well, they were happy with on DH. We were happy with this's kind of it and demonstrates it a little bit. Well, details. This is Tiger proud bomb. I can see what? 61665439 and then, except for 39 all the traits basically pulled in. So it's the same cat. It's just a NFT Often NFT. You have your licence is space will be no more.

Um, I don't actually know. I'm not a lawyer. I just have a kid. I read that. Oh, could you? Yeah. In theory, it's a good question. Where would the licence actually live? And let it lie with Carrie? Showed it lie with, it. Would be really cool if you could breathe Emma's well. But come, you could read your cave. So yeah, uh, just kind of the last things we've done s return to Genesis.

I'm just a glow in the dark version, mostly because people just kept asking us to do. But the design again. We knew we're already working on the design. It's a really small run. This's with the Sacramento Kings and may actually again, we actually get asked quite a lot about how this sort of deal came off on No, no, no. It's like technologically advanced sports companies in America on it constantly got the finger in the polls. Physically Bitcoin Ethereum a stadium for years is they're working with block party on a project every year. Just pick, sort of like tech projects would liketo work on on. They got to get in touch just after we launched Genesis in January.

Um, we just kind of took it from there. Were really pleased of it. Way kind of adapted that design a little bit as well. Genitals. Genesis is soft vinyl on the arms, a detachable, with it being soft vinyl, they are fairly detachable on. They can just come off. It's really a nightmare package, obviously with a product that we now actually distributing the dark as much control. If we just decided it was harder vinyl sophomore Matt finished. It's come out really good. Um, but what we're doing, it's really interesting. So there, rather than just selling them in the store or something like that, they're using him using the actual NFT s like prizes.

So you might you might scan it. You might then go and get the NFT. And the NFT will mention that you've worn, say, a jersey or tickets to a game. So they've used NFT is in a really interesting commercial way. That was pretty cool. I think we'll start to see a lot more of that over the next few years as well. There's definitely be sort of bigger brands coming into the space. You have to look it kind of who invested in the recent dapper blockchain Warner to see kind of where we're heading there. I think personally NFT is of the most commercial mainstream thing. We're going to get within cryptocurrencies and tomorrow I can't remarking that gun for marks in perspective.

Just just so cool with so much potential. So the real question is like, Why did we even really do this? Well, yeah, it's fun. NFT. Here's a thought, but if you actually look like the actual collectibles market, which is supposedly worth around 200 billion, I'm not really sure how true that is, because when I Googled, it was Davis. Different sort numbers were pretty high. But the collectibles market it's really, really, really easy to lose. Physical documents like certificates of authenticity stiffness could be forged. We see a lot of that on. It's especially difficult with older pieces when databases are used to store information, the information centralised not accessible by everyone in the process of really, really timely and actually kind of, holding and maintaining a database of who holds a collectible. Hux, who holds an art piece.

I'm thinking Time Ethereum or blockchain is a pretty good solution on how we improve our providence authenticity. I'm not saying we have, like, the ultimate solution, but I think this is a really good first attempt. It's sort of chipping away at Providence, and authenticity just been kind of vinyl toys. The argument is the small room vinyl toys actually don't need that much authenticity because people just don't copy them, Which is true, the other side. Before, we didn't really approach this from the perspective of our own products. We're looking at the kind of cause James Jarvis, the things that people are actually ripping off You can just buy copies of on Ali Baba. There's a market there, yeah.

I see it, That's a really bad day. So. So I am about to be half an hour, and I figured out how quickly I speak. Of course, Please, Philip. Questions. I know Unplug this because that's gonna drive home. I use this computer and its just literally destined. It's always just like a desktop. It's put into free monitors and it's just still looking. Yeah, I'm just gonna unplug it. It's gonna drive everyone absolutely mental. I promise you, I'm actually know about disorganised.

Hey, off you. Um It kind of very so Genesis was last November. It's meant to be. I I thought, Well, I thought we don't sell about 30 Genesis and we sold 120 40 days, and I was absolutely amazed. I remember this guy out in March. Crypto keys came out in August. These guys came out two weeks ago on the second Kings. Things really sort out its announced, but it's not out. I say believe every 34 months, it has also been stuff that we'd actually built.

Never released with a plus crypto Okay, which is the most horrifying thing you have ever seen. My niece absolutely loves it. and he's like, I have it a lot. No, my sisters, like please, no is horrifying. Um, we also build Does toy that never really made it past the actually, in the sticker packs on. It's never really made it past so a prototype, I think, probably will run next. Simply want a plea about every three or four months, kid Sumo. So maybe I'll have a little bit of time off. I have done 56 times in here. Hello. Oh, I'm just really sad,

how to get into vinyl toys. I really liked like old Godzilla toys on that. I sort of moved into, like the more expensive like court used causes example twice there. But cause before he's like really, really big and was doing crazy art projects was a core stuff on I don't know, probably from, music. I wasat one point really into street, where the sort things fit fit fit next to each other. I still like trainers, but then, when the theory in T shirts and his last tree is that, thank you very much. Oh, sorry. What's going on, does just because it's half finished those I really like really, really keen on exploring the idea is just in seasonal versions of these again. I'd really like this toy.

The only problem is, I'm just really not satisfied with how back sort of sits compared to let in more recent designs. I feel like way have got a lot more temper resistant. WeII. We could look at doing that again, and maybe exploring it would have to change the mould a little bit. I'm changing the mould a little bit. We'll just have to do a longer run. Absolutely just didn't get a lot of time on the Sacramento Kings stuff that'll Ideally, I don't like to change to fall a little bit works, but there's a lot of room for improvement. I am much more satisfied of that sort of solution, where it's almost a little well, we just don't have a lot of Wei, don't have a lot of time, those guys to actually develop it, but at some point, if we are to pull out seasonal versions of them, I would like to address that, improve it a little bit so you might get Valentine's one of her.

There won't be a Christmas one. Yeah, well, people do in, like like when we were better. We're sort of a chart of the token holders that beginning we do our people just, they just go wild by five and you'll have them all a little bit of speculation within it as well. People seem to buy him to speculate and and all that down with that. Um, just because I don't think I don't really like the idea of people, but not to sound like, thanks you anything but dying and flipping out. I feel that you should buy stuff that you actually enjoy.

We actually have this debate on Twitter view today. Someone like collectibles over toys. And I was like, What's the difference? I don't care if you buy one, puts a smile on your face. It's setting your house and you send me a picture of your kids. Play of it. I don't care about the package. You don't know. I'm just happy that someone's getting something from it. Hello? This example, uses about yeah, OpenSea. Off season.

Time. Wow. What machine. Signature? Maybe what? Yeah, If I we applied his models, I hope he's So what else is it around? Wolf. Information.

Yeah, it's all publicly available. It's all public Ethereum. So you could just literally you could even just use OpenSea. You could go on. You could look at the piece. You could see he was owned it before where is transferred from to on DH. Then if you actually wanted to transfer it to yourself, it would just be as simple. It would be a simple, as was about to tell you. It was just a just took it. What we have to look at the minute is ideas around being able to trade something in the post. So if you if you like, I really what, Miss Kitty now, But it's sold out, and I say it's X price.

How would transfer charity way? We're sort of looking at some ways in which we can introduce escrow. Maybe some kind of said stocks to sort of stuff so that you wouldn't we wouldn't release it. And so you've got a code at the end that you entered. So we are doing some stuff around that, but it is quite a way off at the minute. See that coming off a big today. Wait. Okay. Yeah, probably is. I'm no, actually.

Okay? Yes, it was, also. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Look at this. Look at it. Look at it this way. Look at it this way. You get a painting your house that's on fire. You get out the house with the painting, but you're stiff. Ical authenticity sets on fire is exactly the same thing. You've lost your certificates for a certificate of authenticity. You've still got some proof that you've got it on DH Lee should have some basis there to prove that actually did. Hold this at some point because you can see X, y and Z, but you wouldn't actually hold the proof anymore.

You would still have it. You would start the token now and you could actually see. Yeah, I did that. We could introduce things like actually signing addresses and stuff like that, which would may alleviate stuff like that, but yeah. So. Can I make a what? Sorry. Pick up on a piece of paper. Yeah, You just back it. I guess you just back up your private key with you. Just always up the physical version. But your digital digital kind of NFT, which is the Providence would be on lost it you lost Private.

That's a toy is destroyed. We have digital. Yeah, true. You could destroy that. And you want you still have a providence for it? Um, but, you know, the total attack ideas Still there. The serial number of that can't be changed, so. That the serial numbers set by the factory they come. You can't alter them. I'm so no. So you just tough a token? Sorry. That's so nice of a turkey.

Yeah. Ghost version here. When we could do that, we could do something. We actually have it. Sometimes I make mistakes on DH before we've kind of confirmed after bird and vicious kaiju graveyard that exists. I hear your opinion about the secondary market for NFT. Sorry. Like exchanges where we're trying to get stuff. Uh, they're fungible. Why so myself? With NFT, it's typically anybody that what someone may want to buy that. So is it like you see it? The more auction based or what's your opinion?

Maybe if you wanted to get rid of it, you should. But if you would want to get rid of it for public a few years down the line, you see. I don't know if it was two different approaches. The stuff that we've seen cell so far has being genesis. And like, is it before seeing Genesis is that have sold for $300 just cause people bought to a free when it came out? And then when people actually still interested. It's let's flog it And they went by auction. We don't actually see a lot of activity and like OpenSea, But you would think auction. Yeah, But then again, years people like a telegram group.

People do sell them now and again, just just literally. Some of it's amongst one each other. Kaiju should actually partner with Oi, you now certainly there go to work or steals. Now I agree with you. I think you know, we built this almost as a proof of concept on then. Really enjoyed it on kind of spun out into characters. And for me, how it kind of looked at CryptoKaiju is there's almost, like this cute brand there. I really love where you can just sell these characters and people buy them, but there actually is a serious peace to be had.

Um, we've kind of how we approach the NFC at a minute. We just we just literally get a tag. I d. We get the tag, I d. We know that's the unique identifying with them a text layer over it, which is a really, really rudimentary way of doing it, because if you had an android device could actually get serial number. Whereas I phones don't get on NFC serial number, I have to write a text layer on top of it. We know it's right because you can see and you can actually see the serial number, but it's a really rudimentary way of doing it. Really, what we're building some kind of validator on that kind of looked at, it said. This is a valid token.

I looked it up on the blockchain dada, But you haven't actually is with stuff there that could be done in terms of going to brands. Not even like really big companies like Disney. Thought people liked Jiang Qi. Super plastic plastic. A really good example of a small isn't unfamiliar supercluster junkies. Okay, Uh, who's familiar? Kid? Robot. So it came as a spinoff of Kid Robot quit. He went into junkies.

So junkies, actually, they're actually really, really small in terms of the amount was produced, but we are being copied already. You can buy fake ones of Alibaba stuff like that just for someone like that, it would be absolutely ideal, because for someone like Disney yeah, fraud is a big deal. But is that really the way to combat? It is debatable. But for young star, such is like super plastic, Maybe even kid robot, You know, they don't have that much volume compared to like has broke Disney. That's when fraud actually starts to mess up with your business.

Sort of hinder things because people aren't really bothered. They'll just go by a copy of it. Not bang Uriel product so small we can't really fight it can't police it. So it was all like That would be great defensive pressure. I'd love to do something like that. Anyone know vinyl works for super plastic. Oh, our kid robot. Just come and see me and or this. Now turn down this name. Hello? Funny. Have you looked at the other? A unique idea fires, with you.

Um, we've got a few things I would not have tto weigh it up. There are different different options and different ways of doing things. We even looked just etching. Originally, we actually have seen people build so like statues and ornaments and sort of token eyes when they just ached. And if she's not, be, be all and end all at all. The advantage is not just specifically NFT nfc, but if you were to build APS, or introduced kind of Mohr interesting features, it might need a sort of best route to take into him to scale ability but is not limited to that.

There's loads of different ways we can do it. Actually. Yeah, we did rockers. I think you just copied so easily. You can just copy a Q R code on that. Yeah, way even actually fought about. We might. We might do this at some point. We've even, like start to speak to people about it. Is the idea off? I really don't like having to sell someone on DH actual toy minute NFT sending me NFT.

If you think it's a really bad use a journey, it's like it's just terrible from a consumer's perspective. Like what? A gift. Your friend. One of these. What you do. What? Hey, could I get your fear room address? Even if they do actually have a feeling we're going to get your favourite dress. I'm gonna send you a surprise. We know what it is before it turns up. So we actually, like, were actually have looked around the idea of maybe sort of tear off. There's a q R code underneath, maybe like a big calendar. Um, in the beginning was, uh It was used to say KnownOrigin now is this BlockRocket, which we decided to formalise everything because it's not really down over its more BlockRocket.

No, we didn't talk about some stuff like that we talked about. We talked to a couple of people about, like, redeemable Q R code stuff like that. It is something we might do in the future. I just think it's a lot better user experience that it made my life so much easier than having to. And obviously collectible you want, like the whole crowd or multiple them is any thought of being like a multi sick where you have multiple collectables toe, create one? No. For this, I have fought some really cool ideas, which all boy to death with it about about that afterwards.

But it's really, really cool idea. If you had four, I thought that ideas like I mentioned before, I think entities have really, really, really valuable marketing tools on. I have some ideas before around, So he had a fashion fashion line. You get enough to with you have you get another Teo Hoody, but you don't get the exclusive T shirt. If you've got all four NFT s and you can lock in. Yeah, I'd love to do. Looks like a really cool. It could be like the Power Rangers. But you get all the parts together. Yes. Um MEChA Godzilla Mac occasion.

We gotta ask this so much apples like, Hey, what you gonna do with it? Next? When we get in the game, it's like you be supposed to. This is just This is really just a hobby. This is really weird because we collaborated with big people. It's just a hobby. It's a full time job. Um, just because a small room vinyl toys No, actually, that much profit in it. I'd love to. I'd love to build a game well, even solve drawn up concepts about like animal Crossing, but with K Jews, which would just be a dream come true. Yeah, I would love to. Just building a game is so expensive that this point on DH, even with BlockRocket, even if we would just tow push all our money into wall any profit in Vern into building a game, it's just a resource.

We just don't have it. That's all done with it a minute. I'd love to know that no one wants to get me 25 grand a certain building game. Come see me. All right. How do you think we'll be in in games like four? Oh. We're having this discussion before, so it's not like I thought it would be amazing. Um NFT t m and my c In February, there was a couple of games cos weirdly sniffing around. I spoke to a couple of afterwards and they're interested in Hey, could you do this?

Because we would love to be sort of via me Bow of blockchain. I think things would be really cool a place we could fit in, like this really is a very, very, very rudimentary me bow, in a sense, but yeah, it's crypto kit is a game. Yeah, it is a game. It's one of the earliest examples of game we're moving on now. We're getting much sort of gameplay, but we could call it game. But, you know, you've got this you've got NFT with, so it is very, very real. Mention me about, but we're a couple of games company sniffing around and talk about, you know, we've got this character. We've got that character, you know, big. Do you see that big? I was a little big. Uh.

No cool, like that. Wow. What? I think the what's the game called that So, like final fantasy style RPG, but a little bit Cypher punk name is Really? Yeah, I think that's good. I think I've got some likes video, really good team. They seem to really get attacked. Like this are things that they were doing. Lightning networking stuff that really excites me. But sorry, I've just waffle waffle waffle. Does I always do Trying to your question listen anymore. He turned after he's so sick of my waffle and this is turned off.

I can't do two things at once. Really interesting to get a three d model. You're right. Professionally. It's actually really interesting. Eventually re hardly were ever to go to the games company. Know that we've kind of got skeletons applied, but I guess we could solve applied Riggs afterwards, every single one of our toys or things I've ever done on all three D models. It's like half ready to go. Yeah, we've got loads of stuff kind of. Sticking. Crypto box files on display. Everybody could see it. Want it.

I've got. I've got models. Yes, the paint. And they are just like polymer. But there are really on that. No, actually, it's really interesting ways, Teo. Sort of paint over kind of S t ells and stuff like stuff. Now kind of what? What it's called when looking at computer afterwards and I'll tell you. But this way, so you can just coastal get blank. Well, basically, when our stop is designed to be freely printed or kind of prototypes, there's no colour on it. It's just white paint over afterwards, but there are ways that you can still get.

Really, You can paint over things really nicely, essentially what we did with the Sacramento Kings, because they were like, Hey, we can assign awful this unless you're prototypes. Like just why hastily painted them myself. Hey, so this. I only understand that the collectibles market was called us. It's been assumption off. The NFT represents that physical objects. Yes, so it's sort of touching on your point in terms ofthe could the NFT represent the design off the object I work about? Where was description. How to create a work of art So the world was to Scripture cool.

Then you have museums creating that work of art just wanted The empty represents that design. So if you want the NFT even if you created a hoppy Ovitz. It's not related to the actual physical object is related to the design. Darky. Yeah, copy days. But you have the energy that you're cocky on physical eyes and become the actual Actually, um, not really, no, because he's very conceptual. I love the sound of this, but the underlying issue would still be.

The actual tag is still attacked. The actual tagged It contains the serial number that's used in the smart contract. Still six on the original piece, images. And then that's cool. I like it. It's, uh so we're getting so matter better to use these days. It's a very good point. Will affair. You may even still be here. But the most serious point is how you know, how do you actually look after that tag? How do you know how many scans it's gonna work for?

Wait actually did a little bit of reading around this. We actually don't know. They know concurrency it for 100 years and save. It'll definitely last 100 years from now on that point, I imagine it will last a lot longer, but we actually don't know is a really interesting points. If you actually think about the amount of are being put out these days, I'll be mad about that already exists. How would you actually apply technological technological improvements to Providence? I guess you'd have to introduce a system. And we do have the very sort of backbones, and it's a little bit clumsy in a minute. But replacement system for these.

So actually, to go back to your point before about burning down the house if you actually did burned if you actually did have the NFT. But somehow you damaged this in a fire or burned out, we can actually do in a smart contract some type of replacement where, yes, you have a new tag, but you can see that the old tag replaces that. I guess you'd have to do something like that. To be honest, I'm not thinking that long term, but it's a really important consideration for you. Actually, you know, every single piece of art in the physical are in the world was to be back in a system like this, How would you actually do it? And it's You would have to introduce something like that, but.

What. No. On. We've We've had all the literature. I went with BlockRocket guys. And James absolutely loves Eve to James is just hard core, Just absolute genius. Guy talked about scaling quite a lot on way. Will have to at some point, I still don't know. Well, I don't know. Ask metallic, actually. How are we getting a my grey each one to leave to it. It doesn't seem that clear to may. Well,

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Yeah, let's not get into the hello. So you mentioned the prices? Yes, there? Actually, no. It has to do some really cool mark sing things with it. I think I'm not speaking. I actually don't know Bethel plan. They might sell some. I don't know. I'm not speaking on behalf of the Sacramento Kings. What they're actually doing I know definitely gonna do is a little, like, cool on wine, I think in real life, sort of scavenger hunts. So they used these really, really like you actually hiding a physical object. You get it? We have to change the sort of buying process a little bit and rethink it with the Sacramento Kings.

The sort of scanning think, then would have actually been really useful. We're not really quite there of it yet. It was also other complications. And like I said, we turn it round really quick. This project, eh? So what's gonna happen is someone gets one with most of most case, you just come in like a head of card like that. Apart from actually, Kitty's a lot people known about doesn't have packaging, but just really can't fight back. Um, So what we're doing is within the actual package itself, you actually get almost like a business card has got Q R code on it. It says, Do not pull off this red sticker.

By the way, we've only ever had one person pull off a red sticker despite its saying on the instructions. Do no on, he said. He didn't tell me. Anywhere they didn't tell me is that Derek does. It clearly says, Do not pull the sticker off And then I look, somebody's a Bitcoin SUV from so it says it all. Guy's got problems, huh? So we had to kind of rejigger it a little bit because they are going to be this core Ethereum or core crypto audience that was selling two. It might not be aware. A lot of them will have Ethereum addresses just because crypto is so ingrained into the Sacramento Kings in this stadium anyway.

But it's just literally Q R code for type in your email address. Type in your name and we'll just send you NFT toe toe. Switch it out a little bit like I say Q R K. Everything would have been really useful.