BASE Mainnet: Making Ethereum Accessible to Everyone with Jesse Pollak

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foreign [Music] welcome to the greenpill.network podcast if you're just joining us we are building a coordination a network Society of thousands of hacker streamers and doers focused on using crypto to bring positive some digital systems to the world this podcast features the people who are doing it and is published every Tuesday and Thursday if you want to learn more you can visit our website at greenpill.network where you can download the green pill book for free join the Discord or become a member of your local green pill Network chapter so my guest today is Jesse Pollock who is the lead for base at coinbase he was on the protocols team at coinbase and his contributor number uh one on base base is the new layer to ethereum Layer Two

that coinbase is launching and it's gone live yesterday uh and so I'm really excited to talk to Jesse about why coinbase is doing this how can you build on top of base and what does the world look like when you build a billion when you bring a billion people on chain so the opportunity space I think for Regens is quite wide here because there's going to be a bunch of people that have never really had an on-chain crypto experience that coinbase is going to be bringing on chain onto the base layer two so we talk about how Jesse got green pilled his experience with doing regen experiments in the Oak Community which is also building on top of Base his vision for what it looks like to have a billion

people on chain and how that provides more financial sovereignty and access to lending and financial instruments that are not predatory to people all over the world and we talk about how on-chain summer intersects with regen fall in this episode so I think this is a really fun episode for me because I've just admired coinbase for so long they were my first crypto experience they brought me on chain and what does the world look like in which we bring millions in billions of people on chain onto self-solver and decentralized networks I think you're gonna enjoy this episode is an open Global Collective working to finance and democratize the governance of synthetic biology Technologies to protect the future of our planet

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just launched this mainnet yesterday and yeah so um on Jesse uh excited to be uh here to talk about bass and what we're doing uh how we're going to bring a billion people on chain bases and ethereum Layer Two blockchain uh it's incubated by coinbase gradually decentralizing it's built on the op stack alongside public goods Network op mainnet Zora Network um you know all of us really working together as one super deep one super team with one super dream which is building the super chain and bringing the whole world on shape so we launched mainnet yesterday it was awesome um really excited to be here talking with you Kevin uh and and you know again listen uh getting to to kind of uh

engage with this whole group of folks in the green belt yeah it's been really exciting to see the op stack enable people to launch layer twos and to move more people on chain and coinbase just has such I mean coinbase was my first crypto experience that's where I got my first crypto so and I think that one of the real big opportunities is to move people more on chain into more of a trustless environment I'm just really curious to see what's going to happen with the base mainnet as as you all start siphoning or traffic and people over there what are the things you're looking for what are the things that you're hoping to see yeah I mean I think first and foremost uh looking for exciting new use cases built on base and built on chain this summer we really think that when we look at kind of the

overall infrastructure of crypto it's been holding us back for a while uh fees were 2i the wallet experiences weren't good enough there wasn't enough identity infrastructure to build really interesting products but now each of those kind of challenges is getting knocked off right we have low cost l2s like base we have better and better wallets we have better better identity infrastructure like you coin passport and you know Clovis is working on some things there World quite um and so I think our kind of high level perspective is we've really just entered the Golden Age of new on chain use cases and new on-chained products and we are excited to see those start to Blossom you know starting this summer But continuing for the many years ahead and for those use

cases to be the thing that bring the next billion folks on chain because at the end of the day we don't think that people are going to come Unchained just because you're going to come on chain because it makes them you know live better lives because it gives them more economic freedom because it puts them on a better more equal Level Playing Field because they find something that they love to do whether it's a game or a media app or a social network the the value that folks actually get from these products that's what's going to bring people into this new world and then once they get here I think they're gonna get to experience how how much better it is and how much of a positive impact it can have on their day-to-day lives well I'm wondering I'll be curious to see what gets people base peeled and what gets

them to go over to to base because I think that in this space we talk a lot about decentralization and sovereignty and transparent immutable code and I'm living and breathing that stuff and I'm like totally in the blockchain bubble but if I was you know if I was just kind of like Joe the plumber or on Main Street or something like that I feel like no one really comes home at the end of the day and says oh my day was so centralized I mean at least you know unless they get canceled from their bank account or from their social funding she's like what's what's the main reason why people are wanting to go on chain when they're not within the blockchain bubble and you know what's the talking point that's really working for for people on Main Street to to use something like bass are we still kind of

just figuring it out I think it's a little bit mix of a both right historically I think the the kind of wrap on on chain and crypto has been this is highly Financial it's speculative it's like complex technology um and that's meant that there's been a small niche of people all around the world uh you know relatively small you know like tens of millions hundreds of millions of folks who have given that a try um but we haven't seen kind of like consistent month over month quarter over quarter growth and people being on chain doing more actions on chain um and kind of that growing into the whole population so in terms of what's going to make that shift I.E what's going to take us from kind of having this flat growth punctuated by speculative Furies into like consistent growth where folks are just kind of

coming on chain staying on chain and growing their own chain usage I think that um it's going to be this next wave of applications that um people actually want to use and this summer I mean we're doing this on chain summer thing um the like tldr is you can go to unchain somewhere.xyz every day from uh yesterday August 9th all the way through the end of August and we'll be curating kind of one fun thing to do on chain and then the folks who are helping us do that are going to bring you a bunch of others that the communities can be building a bunch of others and the way I kind of see this is like it's it's 24 Shots on goal um right like maybe not every single one of those things that you want to do uh that's on chained is something that like

connects to you or connects to the everyday person who's walking down the street and sees the wild posting and scans the QR code but even if we just get one like if there's one game that you're like oh this is cool I want to play it or if there's one piece of music from an artist and you're like oh I like that artist like let me collect it and build a more meaningful relationship with them or if there's you know one food pass from Blackbird where it's like oh I love that restaurant like let me get that passed so I can get like perks and get recognized there like each of these days is kind of a like an opportunity for us to try and bring some more people with a new experience on chain um learn from that and really see what we need to do in order to get this

feedback loop going where we can get billions and ten and billions of folks on okay yeah well I'm really excited to see what kind of new use cases are opened up here and you know I think they wear a basement that intersects with the green television is is that we now have an opportunity to demonstrate uh to people why blockchains actually have value and why being on chain actually has value and as you know greenpill.network we're trying to build a coordination we're trying to build uh social movement towards more pro-social protopian pro-environmental uses of crypto and I think that really showing people that they can earn using blockchains in instead of just buy bags is going to be a really big step forward

and I also think that it's really neat that uh bass is an OP chain and is part of the op super chain and part of the transaction fees as I understand it from base are going to go back to optimism which are going to fund retractive public goods so there's this whole pro-social cycle that's that's going to be happening there so uh I know that you're doing doing a podcast circuit and doing a bunch of interviews right now uh but I would love to focus our interview on like the more pro-social and like pro-democracy thing we could do now the bases out there yeah I love that and you know it's uh all familiar territory for me you know as I've thought about like why do I spend my life on um working on base working on uh this like onshape platform that's emerging uh

in many ways it's because of the opportunity to um make the world a better place uh increase economic freedom put everyone on a Level Playing Field um create new platforms that folks are going to be able to stand on that are going to help them have better lives help us organize the society better I mean I think there's so much overlap with the work that y'all are doing on the green pill uh the work that so many folks are doing all around the world to use crypto as a tool for upgrading our systems and making them work better for everyday people so really excited to dig into that and you know have some stories or have some examples I can share of that happening on base but I'm also happy to go wherever wherever you please yeah that sounds based I had to make that pun at least once per

episode uh you know everyone does yeah so so let's let's dive into into this is into some of those examples I'd love to hear you know what you're excited about yeah well maybe we can just start with one um that I think is like relevant um and and feels uh you know pretty connected to the green pill Mission um and this is a project that's launching on base this summer um uh it's called Oak uh it's something that I've been involved with um you know for the last couple years as well um and it's a community currency that's being launched in Oakland California um where uh you know we're basically working to um create a new economic system for the city uh by embedding a local community

currency uh fully Unchained um getting that stood up in farmers markets getting that stood up in small businesses and using that as a lever to drive more reinvestment in Oakland um from small businesses and from you know individual folks who are transacting in the economy using that as leverage lever to make it so that folks who are holding their money and living in Oakland are contributing back to the society um almost as if they were using a community bank and then gradually using that as a lever to give folks a voice in kind of where the resources of our community go and how that can can help us get to better outcomes by kind of lifting up the folks who are closest to the challenges

um and and putting them in a place where they can actually kind of say hey here's what we need to be doing here's where we need to be fixing so that's been a really cool kind of project that I've gotten to kind of watch over the last few years it's it's pretty wild to see that it's finally coming to fruition on base um and kind of starting to to roll out transactions this summer one of the things I'm really excited about is as the transaction fees of blockchains come way down because of layer twos and then of course you know we've got we've got blob space going live as an EIP sometime later this year in transaction fees I think uh it sounds like we'll go down even more is what kind of use cases does that open up for blockchains as you go from having to pay ten dollars for a

transaction on ethereum to having to pay several cents or maybe less than a cent um what kind of ways does that enable people to move around currency in in New in new ways and I think that base is kind of leading the charge with creating a space for those those use cases to thrive and to experiment and with tens if not hundreds of thousands of users so really excited to see what happens with Oak the Oak Community currency but also that that whole design space of really low-cost transactions with the security that comes with the ethereum main net because of the the role of architecture yeah 100 agreed I think you know like in going the kind of I think 10 to 20 to 30X reduction that we have from ethereum

mainnet to Base today I think where you open up the aperture of a whole new host of use cases and I can feel it myself like I feel so much more comfortable sending usdc or east on base than I do on ethereum because instead of paying you know dollars in fees I'm paying cents in fees my sense is that with 4844 which for those tour listing is an upgrade to ethereum that's coming later this year early next year it'll reduce fees on the layer twos again another five to ten X it will get into the kind of like low sense maybe even subset range I think that's going to open up the aperture again where it's like whoa there's like even more things that we didn't really know were possible we

didn't know where fits were doing Unchained but now are um and so my sense is that we're really just kind of like standing at the precipice right now where it's like the wallets are good enough the fees are low enough the identity systems are coming together and these use cases are starting to emerge and over the next year it's not like we're going to see one or two or three use cases it's good like we're gonna see hundreds like hundreds and hundreds of really cool new things that people realize oh this would be so much better if we did it on chain or oh this is uniquely possible because we do it on chain yeah I just think that that's that's really exciting to to show the power of this technology to people across the world I'm wondering what else you're expecting to see during on chain

so which by the way is such a good meme on chain Summers is such a good meme but what what are you expecting to see uh Beyond just Oak yeah so um this first week you know uh yesterday for the the main net launch we had um base day one which was just a a collection of kind of like remember being Collective uh uh whomever developed to use from the base launch I love our kind of headline base day one um it is a the start of a script um the star of our story really um and it's meant to be just to start because we think that ultimately this isn't a story that we can tell this is a story that all of us have to tell and so over the next few weeks you'll see folks um uh you'll you'll see that actual

asset the the Unchained asset evolve and it'll start to tell our story in the public eye which I'm really excited about I just think that's a really cool format that is unchain native and it hasn't really been experimented with before but um is gonna be a really powerful storytelling tool and really powerful way of bringing everyone in to figure out what is the base story what is the story of bringing billion people billions of people on chain so that's that's exciting um today we have uh swb uh curating Cosmo and DK uh doing some really cool art which I think makes a great statement um and so that that's an awesome one tomorrow parallel um uh which is uh you know like one of the coolest games that's Unchained right now uh it's in private beta you can get

a starter pack which will get you immediate access to game to play get you 50 cards to get started um I think that's going to be awesome and then over the next week we have you know a huge host of things we have music from uh another Block in in Showtime we have Coke you know like our Our Big Brand we had to pick one um or two uh and they're kind of dropping some cool art uh with coke bottle and a bunch of emerging artists and more kind of historic artists like the van Gogh house we got standard with cryptoday on Monday uh which is gonna be just another opportunity for Advocates all around the world to say we need more policy work their policy for crypto um and then we have a bunch more our media games we got food with blackbird

so it's it's really appropriate and like I mentioned um the goal of this is not to be like oh every day um you know there's gonna be something for you you know maybe there will be and for some people that's the case they all be there every day experiencing this but I think the the real North Star for us is like can we give everyone something can we give everyone the reason to get on chain this summer that's kind of our tagline it's like get on shade this summer because once you get on chain once you have your wallet once you start minting once you start experiencing what's here it's hard to leave because it's really really cool it's really really powerful um and so what we want to be doing is we want to get everyone on chained once and then let them explore this world from

there and hopefully find a bunch of things that are really exciting to them you know uh all the use cases I that you described are things that are exciting to me as a crypto native someone who messes around with new crypto Primitives and and I'm wondering uh how much are you targeting with the base mainnet launch crypto natives people who are already doing stuff on chain just to kick the tires on things and when are you going to open up the spicket of the tens of millions of people who use coinbase every day to come over and and start tasting that on chain potpourri yeah I think it's gonna be uh a mix and it's gonna be gradual right like there's no magic wand that we can wave that's gonna get everyone immediately convert it over to be on chain users um but we do have uh kind of a large

user base who's excited about crypto and wants to start exploring more and so I really expect over the next you know months and years we're going to kind of have a funnel where what we're constantly trying to do you know on base and with all the folks who are building on base is figure out what are those use cases one of the things that get people really excited and then we're working with you know interfaces like coinbase coinbase wallet you know and also all the other wallets that we work with rainbow and trustwallet and uh frame and Robbie and others to say hey like here's some use cases like let's see if these ones work right right like you know uh we've had trading and we have peer-to-peer like those ones will continue working those ones will continue bringing in folks but let's experiment with some new ones and say

hey does this catch people's eye what's the conversion rate for folks creating their first on account like how do we activate people to actually understand and experience this new platform and why it's actually good for them and so I I don't feel like I have a civil Silver Bullet for that um I don't think anyone does but I think the the mental model that I have is like shots on ball it's like let's just keep building really cool products and let's keep putting them in front of everyday people and at some point we're gonna have them catch and at that point um uh we're gonna start growing and we're not going to stop growing until the entire world is on chain well I I know that one of the shots on goal that I want to take is helping people earn their first crypto instead of buying it

and so you know I think that one of the things I'll be interested in deploying on base is is getting Bitcoin grants on base getting Bitcoin passport on base and giving people earning opportunities for being a unique user which is you know the Primitive the Bitcoin passport uh provides and then Bitcoin grants obviously is a way of crowdfunding what matters in your community so I think that like my dream for for a region when web3 cycle would be that everyone's earning their first crypto instead of buying stuff and I think that that might be an opportunity for for our Visions to intersect and so 100 degrees that's a shots on goal we'll take yes I would love that and you know I've been a Bitcoin grants uh donor I think like every round since the beginning maybe I missed one or two

um but it's uh been such a joy to get to watch that platform evolve and then get to contribute in such a novel way um to the broader crypto ecosystem one other fun fact is uh we actually ran a Bitcoin grants round in Oakland with Oak uh the other month I think like last fall where we had I think like 15 different local organizations um set up get coin uh profiles let's figure out how to accept crypto donations um and then we did quadratic funding with a matching pool from uh the kind of non-profit that's starting Oak and the Oakland fund for public Innovation um and we had a bunch of Engagement you know I think like few hundred people

tuned in from Oakland and and helped us figure out where do funds go using Bitcoin quadratic funding so you know I see these tools that you all have built in general the tools of Regens around the world has like powerful tools for Transforming Our communities uh and you know they've been probably more expensive than they should be on ethereum but with layer twos like base of a Goods Network I'm excited to get them in the hands of more people because I think we're going to see a lot of creativity when we get powerful tools that are accessible to everyone distributed around the world yeah I'm into that well I think that that Oak experiment was used on the old dirty dirty centralized version of Bitcoin and so after deploy the decentralized

version of it uh which by the way if you ever use the old centralized one sorry about my spaghetti code the new one is much cleaner and but there's a nice parallel between coinbase going on chain and Bitcoin uh going completely on chain and you know I just I just love uh it makes me feel so much kinship uh to see organizations that were centralized kind of eating their decentralized vegetables in in moving more Unchained and and I think that bass is putting their money where their mouth is by by moving more of coinbase on chain yeah we're trying our best you know it's uh I think our our kind of thesis on this is if we can't do it then no one's going to like there's no other public company that has the level of kind of crypto

nativeness uh that coinbase has and so you know what we like we're doing this because we think it's it's good for you know growing on chain system we're also doing this because we think that if we can figure this out then we're going to pave a path that lets all the other folks figure it out and getting everyone you know all the public companies to understand whoa here's why on chain can help me too um can help me up my customers can help my stakeholders I think that that's really really important and I think coinbase um you know shout out to Brian uh and the whole kind of like leadership team that they've done a remarkable job um prioritizing uh this uh advocating for decentralization

um advocating for base to remain open permissionless and really like pushing the company into the future uh you know a 12 year old company that has you know 4 000 employees and a bunch of public shareholders uh is is pushing to figure out what does on chain mean for us and how do we get there sooner rather than later well I've got this beam in front of me on chain is the new online and I'm wondering if if you could just react to that why is on chain the new online and and what could that mean 5 10 20 years out to the Future especially for regions yeah you know I think that is a phrase that we have been using pretty frequently and I've been using pretty frequently um I think it is meant to capture really what we we see as kind of uh this moment

where we're entering the next generation of the internet um you know before the internet existed we were all offline and it was a world where most things were one directional right like you know you were talked at by the TV you were talked out by the newspaper if you wanted to create and be creative and put your thoughts and work into the world generally you were going through Gatekeepers you know the Publishers The Producers the newspaper editors whoever whoever was kind of holding the keys to to communicate with the world and then the internet came and we all moved online and that was kind of when I grew up um and it felt like the World opened up because for the first time you could like share yourself you could share your creativity there were no Gatekeepers you

could publish yourself and everyone could listen um and that was incredibly powerful it led to this whole massive way of innovation that we've had over the last decade or two decades three decades but it also kind of left something to be desired because I think when all of us were sharing that creativity we were putting it into the hands of other folks you know we were sharing our creativity and people gave us the platform to do that but then that creativity was on Facebook or it was on Instagram or was on Tick Tock or is on Twitter and we lost control we lost ownership and we had to play by their rules um we had to you know take whatever they would give us from a revenue perspective and from an earnings perspective yeah I think now we think that on chain is the

next online and what that means is that we're going to see a similar transformation over the next 20. where everyone starts to move on chain and they preserve that ability to you know read everything from the internet and to write everything to the internet but they gained a new capability which is to own everything that they put there and to have it be fundamentally theirs when they put it on chain and that's going to mean that it's no longer that the rules are determined by other people the rules are determined by us it's going to mean that's no longer that you know the earnings and the creativity that you create gets kind of siphoned off by large corporations it's like no those earnings are going to be yours um and I think it's going to open up a

world where um you know everyone uh can create everyone can build and the outputs of those create that creativity and that Builder energy is going to be fundamentally Sovereign and so fundamentally owned by the individuals and the communities that are that are doing that work and so that's what it means when we say onto the next online it's like the world is transforming um and it's transforming for the better uh and all of us get to be here to help push us into that new future yeah it's it's sort of inviting me to reminisce about my first experiences with using online systems back when I was a teenager pre-teen and I would invite the listeners to reminisce about their first experiences online and how those mirror uh the first on-chain experiences they

have so you know what's the on-chain equivalent of when I was 14 and I was starting a company out of my parents house which wouldn't have been possible without online I think it's decentralized earning on on chain um I still don't know what the oontane equivalent of like you know having my first internet girlfriend uh when I was 14 was but uh you know well I'm sure lots of new fun weird things will evolve on Jane yeah yeah I I gotta think about that one for a little bit too but yeah I think there's gonna be all sorts of new experiences that um you know fundamentally put uh folks back in control of their own destiny um uh and and let them make the most of their creativity that makes the most of their energy uh and and make the world a better place

there's um something I read about coinbase which I thought was really smart was they were doing some some polling or like focus groups and trying to figure out why everyday consumers would care about blockchains and I think they landed on this meme of upgrade the system uh we're we're basically I think that normal people don't understand sovereignty or decentralization until they get rugged until they get de-platformed which you know you want to get them before they get that Black Swan event but just this feeling of the financial system hasn't been upgraded since World War II ended and we built the current Financial infrastructure and so I'm I'm I think that that talking point upgrade the system is is a really interesting focal point for me and it just sort of speaks to how coindus is a Pioneer in bringing more people on Chain by upgrading the system and showing them

what a new Financial system uh looks like and I guess the question that I'm leaning towards here is in 10 years if you're maximally successful if we've upgraded the system what is the financial system look like and you know asking you to speak uh as as Jesse Pollock and not on behalf of coinbase here but like in 10 years if you're Max successful what does what does the base ecosystem look like I mean I think it's I think it's billions of people on chain um I think it's everyone operating on a Level Playing Field where it doesn't matter where you're born it doesn't matter where you live you have access to the same ability to save money in a stable currency uh the same ability to borrow money and lend your money and earn

um saveability to send money to friends and family and and for that not to be restricted um based on kind of the arbitrary lines that divide us today and I think if we have that if we have that level of playing field but we'll see is that those billions of folks who are on chain are able to they're able to create more they're able to build better businesses they're able to support their families better they're they're literally able to live better lives and so that is that's where I think we're gonna be I I think that the whole world is going to come on change this decade and that it's going to have kind of a cascading positive effect um because that's what I'm seeing when

individuals come on chain uh and I think that it's going to extrapolate pretty well to us cool so what I heard there was billions of people on chain having access to stable currencies and if you're listening in the United States you might not know you know the experience of living in a place where there's hyperinflation how destabilizing it can be to have hyperinflation but having access to a stable currency can be a game changer uh having access to remittances without some sort of uh intermediary that's taking money uh out uh being able to lend at a not predatory rate are all things that people could do on chain and then there's this sort of like systemic effects of billions of people being on chain uh the base mainnet is an OP chain and part of those

fees will go to fund public goods and so there's kind of like a systemic effect of the super chain funding public goods there and I think there's also a systemic effect of the tech companies not being able to de-platform people and have power over people and those are sort of like the the way I guess what I'm fishing for here is the different ways the world changes as billions of people come on chain and and and I think we just let layered in like four or five uh things that change when when billions of people go on change is there anything you would add to that list I think that's a pretty solid list um I think there's probably a lot of unknown unknowns that we can't fully describe today you know it's like when we were in the 90s looking at the internet being like this is going to

change the world you know I think we probably would we were able to describe 20 to 30 and then we missed the rest I feel similarly here um where there's a lot of things that we can say hey like we're going to see these existing systems get re-platformed and that's going to lead to better outcomes in them but I think we're also going to see a whole host of new things that we can't even really right now those are probably things I'm most excited about it's like opening up the aperture it's opening up opening up our minds and figuring out what's possible yeah there's this concept of skeuomorphism which is like how the new system uh looks like the old system but just on chain and you know the the examples of non-schemorphic things are fun things that are fundamentally new given the new platform and I think that

uh what I heard from you is that you're excited about the non-schomorphic use cases the things that are only possible and when billions of people are on chain and an example of that for me is multiplayer real-time Finance MMORPGs but with real Financial value and um you know the thing that that I'm sort of trying to mess around with and you can see it in my work at get quite is like multiplayer Finance where you uh have a group of community deciding it where a group of funds go and they could only do it in a multiplayer way but those non-schemorific use cases of of Finance are going to get really interesting and weird once a billion people are on chain yeah yeah it's gonna be wild it's gonna be epic um I think that uh we're about to see a whole new world get created over the

next few years over the next decade um I can be more excited yeah same well I wonder if there's anything that I didn't ask that you want to save I don't think so I guess like if you're listening in my ask would be like this is not uh this work of bringing the world on chain it's not something that you know bass can do alone or coinbase can do a load or Greenfield can do a loan or anyone can do it like this is the work of all of us um it's the work of telling our friends and family it's the work of building those incredible product experiences it's the work of making sure the infrastructure Works um and so it's on chain summer the time is now uh uh get building throw your chips in with

us and let's figure out how we bring the whole world on chain over the next decade um so super grateful to be here grateful for this incredible conversation uh grateful to be building with you Kevin and building with all the folks who are listening in uh to make this new world happen beautiful laughter on chain summer I think comes region fall or at least that's the movement I'll be using regen fall it's on chain season every season that's the hope well Jesse thanks so much for joining us and on behalf of the crypto Community thank you for bringing uh billions of people on chain and really excited to play with basement now that it's live thanks again awesome thanks Kevin foreign

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