Arbitrum Orbit update, L2Beat Finality page & more - The Daily Gwei Refuel #716 - Ethereum Updates

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hello everyone welcome to another episode of the delway refuel where up latest news in etherum ecosystem I'm your host C the 19th of January 2024 right everyone let's get into it so I did mention yesterday that there would be an all call devs call happening uh today basically or yesterday basically and it happened and Tim boo put out a tweet Thread about it now of course I also mentioned on yesterday's episode that on this call they would discuss if there were any kind of delays to the test net Forks uh for denk because of the little bug that we had on the girly fork and I'm very very happy that there isn't a delay like I mentioned yesterday there was a very low chance that there'd be a delay uh and Tim says here in the thread that the uh test net forks for Denon hosi sapoia and hosi will go ahead

as planned on Jan 30th for sapoia and hosi on Feb 7th then and we can expect an announcement with client releases next week of course after those uh test net forks go through we'll then get an announcement for main net date which I still expect to be mid to late March it was great to see that all of that uh you know everything that happened on girly didn't delay anything uh as expected which is great there and then the allore devs also discussed a few other things in relation to Denon but then moved on to a bunch of other stuff as well which you can kind of read the thread to get a um to get a view into here they are definitely you know firmly moved over to I guess discussing the prag and Electra aips at this stage really it's just kind of a a little bit of discussion over

denune now because of the fact that Den is just on the test Nets there's no more kind of obviously Research into the eips there's no more real clients things for for clients to do unless it's a bug or an a performance Improvement so really they're they're kind of moving all towards the prag and electri IPS and as I discussed or I've been discussing over the last few days uh there are a lot of of eips uh slated for that upgrade or at least proposed for that upgrade so really the next few months just going to be working through the motions of which ones we'll actually make it into I'm going to start calling it Petra uh just because saying prag and Electra is is longer than saying Petra uh we're going to you know have a discussion about which ones are actually going to make it into Petra and then go through

the motions that we always do leading into an ethereum Network upgrade as you guys know I'm most excited about things like the max effective Val validator increase uh but also uh with execution layer triggerable exits for for validators to make permissionless staking a reality because right now even in the most permissionless staking ecosystem rocker pool there is still Reliance on the odal uh because the odal needs to process validator withdrawals and needs to actually process uh kind of removing validators that are offline for long periods of time and stuff like that uh whereas in a fully permissionless system you could trigger these exits from the execution layer without having to go through any kind of like Oracle D or any kind of like I guess centralization Vector uh which is obviously really really good for

permissionless staking on ethereum but anyway you can go give Tims tweet thread a read I'll link it in the YouTube description below for you to do so all right so I've been talking a bit about this on the refill lately and it's been a topic of discussion within the ethereum community for at least a couple of weeks now uh but I guess much longer than that generally but it's all about the ethereum gas limit right which is effectively ethereum's block size now paraos has put out a new research post about the potential testing path to figure out gas limit increases now I did mention this the other day saying that if we want to actually seriously think about increasing the gas limit we have to know what the tradeoffs are we have to know what the effects on the network are going to be we have to know uh

basically how much we can increase a buy know what we're getting out of it stuff like that and that's exactly what paraos is trying to do here he's getting the conversation started trying to put uh put together basically a framework for this now there were a few replies already on his post one from Michu here who's been quite active in the ethereum core Dev uh and research space for quite a while now but basically he has like this seveno list here of who we should be optimizing for uh for be to for being able to run a node and basically starts off with number one saying you know should we be optimizing for someone with a 10-year-old flip phone being able to run a full node and then going all the way to number seven which is someone with a data center so there's there's

basically basally a spectrum here of where you can run a full node and he basically comes to the conclusion that ethereum should be optimizing for numbers 3 to six which which is someone with a consumer daily driver laptop someone with a gaming rig someone with a lowcost dedicated server in their home and someone with a dedicated server in a data center because the top two here some with a 10-year-old flip phone and some with a high-end cell phone and great Network connect connectivity are probably not what ethereum is is kind of going for at this stage and he mentions there's also blockchains out there that can Target this the fully ZK blockchains and maybe eventually ethereum becomes a fully ZK blockchain but in the I guess like probably even the longer term like I I I don't expect ethereum to be kind of snark ified probably for like 10

years at this stage so if we're talking over the next 5 to 10 years we probably going to be targeting that 3 to six there and even I mean in seven like you can run ethereum full nodes in a data center but it's more about kind of what the minimum uh requirement is and the minimum would be you know maybe just a daily driver laptop or even below that right like a a daily driver laptop top I guess I guess that's a broad thing to Define as well because there are different types of laptops out there uh ranging from you know your $100 laptop all the way to your many thousands of dollars laptops uh and people use these as their daily drivers right and then there are gaming rigs which can cost even more whether they be gaming PCs or gaming laptops so I think that if we're

talking about the hardware that we can run full nodes on today probably the cheapest you can do it on with a 2 terab solid state drive so you'd probably go like a raspby pi with a 2 terte solid state drive you're probably looking at 4 to 500 and and it really depends on where you are in the world of course cuz the the components will cost different different things and then you'll have to factor in your internet cost and your electricity cost as well but if we're talking about just pure Hardware cost you could probably get it done for $400 at this point depending on what SSD you buy obviously the you know the different brands offer different price points depending on if you get a good deal so I guess it's safe to say around 400 bucks there and you can get laptops for that

amount as well and they can probably run ethereum full nodes but I I like to look at raspberry pies and these kind of dedicated devices that you can install Linux on and basically do whatever you want with them and have them and they and they're a small footprint as well laptop has a screen attached to it right so it's going to take out more space it has a keyboard and everything whereas a raspby pi is very very small even in a case it's absolutely tiny so that is kind of what I look at when I look at the most low powerered Hardware that we can run and ethereum full node on now will that always be the case you know that's a question that people come up with will that always be the case with all the upgrades that are coming to ethereum with the fact that we have

effectively increased the gas limit because we've added 4844 which for a period of time obviously s expire but for a period of time it increases the uh I guess like bandwidth requirements and the storage requirements for full nodes and in the general overhead of the network uh but then you know if we decrease the gas limit if we double the gas limit as I mentioned the other day that automatically doubles the the the kind of load on the network automatically doubles the chain size uh and not straight away obviously it's not going to double the chain size based on history but it doubles it from there so for example if the chain is growing a terabyte per year which I think it's much less than that but for argument sake let's say the chain is growing uh 1 terab per year if we double the gas

limit then you would expect as long as we're using all of that gas right it it it does require the network to be at capacity at all times which ethereum is so let's assume it's that capacity it would mean that you're using two the chain is growing at 2 terabyte per year from from that from that point onwards so it's all about kind of optimizing for you know I guess deciding what Hardware we want to optimize for and then raising gas limits around that so yeah I was I was glad that Micah brought this up because it's definitely a critical point I mean it's the whole reason that ethereum is uh built the way it is right ethereum layer 1 being the settlement layer ethereum layer 2 is being the scalability scalability layer there's no point increasing requirements for ethereum L1 to the point where we

basically kick off things like raspby pies on the network kick off low power devices off the network because in that world we just get closer and closer to the monolithic kind of design which is not what ethereum wants to optimize for and of course uh there are other upgrades that that play into this such as verical trees and statelessness and state expiry which can potentially allow us to increase the gas limit without actually putting an additional burd bur on the network so those are I guess orthogonal discussions to to this this is more for like increasing the gas limit in the current state of things not with vcle trees enabled but I guess like when those things come along it's a different calculus again so anyway you can go read this post for yourself to get a feel for this and also read the replies here uh I'll um I'll link that

in the YouTube description below but this is definitely a discussion that I think that if you're a solo Staker if you're a fulln note operator if you're doing anything with ethereum uh I guess like software and running your own hardware and stuff like that you should definitely read this and have a say uh because I think that for me personally I would I would be really sad if my rock 5B board was kicked off the network because we increased the gas limit for as I've argued before not really much benefit because essentially you would you would just fill that capacity pretty quickly and then you've increased the overhead on the network by a huge amount if you double the gas limit for very little gain that's my general view on it but still we want to test it we want to do you know we want to get empirical

evidence we don't want to just base it on Vibes and feelings right so that's what paraos is trying to do here and a bunch of other people within the community so you can go check this out I'll link it in the YouTube description below for you to do so all right so Shan put out a great uh tweet thread today basically comparing side chains versus optimums versus any trust chains versus validium and uh this tweet I'll link in the YouTube description below uh but snow Sledge also quote tweeted this with a nice little summary of sh am's post here which is basically comparing side change to optimums to any trust change to vums based on you know the The Ledger growth uh uh censorship resistance data availability real resistance and validity so the it's all about kind of trade-offs again here and it's all about

different trust assumptions here any trust chains are something that arbitrum came up with optimums are basically validium but using optimistic rollups instead and validium starware I believe initially came up with this and you guys know that basically validium and optimums and any trust chains all basically store their data offchain they don't instored on ethereum L1 and side chains are a thing that's been around for a very long long time now actually uh and people will argue that you can consider anything a side chain to anything so for example you could consider Bitcoin a side chain to ethereum like if you have a bridge between them and it and the thing is though is that like there's different Bridge constructions as well and it's kind of hard to argue that Bitcoin is a side chain to ethereum because maybe

there's a bridge to bitcoin via a centralized exchange because technically you can bridge to bitcoin via a centralized exchange right you can basically send your let's this is very convoluted but like this is an argument people make let's say you send eth from ethereum to a centralized exchange you're still on the ethereum network obviously then you swap that eth for BTC and then you withdraw that BTC to the Bitcoin Network some people argue that that is you bridging to bitcoin and I'm like eh I don't really I don't really buy that argument I don't really kind of vibe at that argument um but then people argue well okay what about bridging via something like Thor chain what about bridging via wrapped Bitcoin for example going from from the Bitcoin chain wrapping your BTC and then going to ethereum WAP Bitcoin is very centralized th chain has its own trust assumptions

because it has its own validator set that manages all of that right so there are different kind of trust assumptions here of of those sorts of things and and side chains generally are regarded as not inheriting uh any security from the base layer essentially or basically inheriting anything from from the I shouldn't say Bas layer but from the the layer that it's considered a side chain to so for example the most popular side chain in ethereum the ethereum ecosystem is probably the polygon POS chain which does want to become a validium uh a validium ZK evm eventually but right now it's exist as a side chain it does checkpoint itself to ethereum L1 but that's not going to give it uh that's not going to make it kind of like an L2 it's not going to give it the same guarantees as an L2 it's not going to

give it the same guarantees as a rollup or anything like that because the polygon POS chain has its own cons consensus has its own validator set it is not a reliant on on ether like totally reliant on on ethereum for those sorts of things I know that the staking is done via ethereum and there's kind of uh I guess like a hybrid model going on there but ultimately it's secured by the POS chain validators that's kind of how it works there there whereas something like a validum is very different because a validum even though it's not storing its data on ethereum L1 it is still not using its own consensus mechanism it's not using its own validator set it is inheriting that from ethereum L1 because it's posting its proofs there right uh and it's and it's basically got its bridge on there as well so to bridge

Assets in and out uh same for things like optimums and any trust chains but they have even different trust assumptions here so that's exactly what Shams thread goes through and I'll link it as I said in the YouTube description below but you've also got this table to reference as well and I think it's great to be on top of this stuff and to actually understand uh basically what the what the trade-offs are here at the end of the day the most secure L2 construction is going to be a rollup always because a rollup is considered to store both its proofs and its data on the same layer it doesn't have to be etherum L1 but obviously I mean most if not all of the l2s today are all the rollups are in ethereum L1 but that is the the the the top security that is the

top uh security from the proof perspective and from the bridge perspective but also from the fact that your data is highly available and highly secure on ethereum L1 versus some offchain data availability Network or data availability committee or any such thing like that um but still a validium is much better than a side chain because of the fact that it is still a oneof end trust assumption their validium can actually be built as hybrids where essentially you could potentially download the data yourself and stall the data yourself and then be able to recreate it if you can't get it from anywhere else so there are just different types yeah and of of course L2 beat uh L2 beats website has everything on this like has all the information you need on this and breaks it down for you so you can go visit the l2b website as

well on this uh but yeah I just thought it was something interesting to bring up for you guys to go check out which I'll link in the YouTube description below for you to do so all right so nethermind has announced that nethermind research in collaboration with four pillars has introduced a framework for eval evaluating security measures and Igan layer reaking strategies in shared sequences inside the report there are they cover technical nuances of sequences like espresso so AST Astria and Aztec fet an analysis of the cost profit Dynamics in validated corruption and its impact on security a review of sequencer attack types centering on the most threatening ones and strategies for optimizing risk adjusted returns including slashing mechanisms and dynamic reward models now the reason I'm

highlighting this and you can go download this for yourself it is a file that's linked here an adobe 40 Adobe file 40 page report and it's free to to check out here but the reason I'm talking about this is because there's been a lot of talk lately about igen layer generally and the risks of Igan lay the risks of the IG lay avss and and understanding those risks and breaking them down and and essentially having a comprehensive overview of them well that's exactly what nethermind has done here this is as I said a 40-page report going through how uh shared sequences would work in the in outside the context of Igan layer and then also within the context of Igan layer as an AVS so if you want to go check this out you can I'll link it in the yoube description below but this is exactly the stuff that

we want to be seeing and this is why I think that a lot of the risk and concerns about Igan lay are really overblown because the etherum community has always prided itself on uh making sure that those risks and concerns are very public and also doing the research to understand them on a deep level we don't tend to sweep things under the rug for better or worse right sometimes it it kind of comes and bites us on the ass because we're a bit too honest about things and then people use it as fud but I'd rather we be honest too honest about things and people use it as fud than not do any research at all and just kind of bury our heads in the sand because there's been plenty of other ecosystems over the years that have done this I think one of the greatest example of

examples of this is the terror ecosystem many many people were telling the terror ecosystem hey what you're building with uh the US stable coin with Anor is a Ponzi and it's going to unwind and collapse like the design was not a secret you everyone could read the white paper and if you understood the the way the design worked you understood that it would death spiral and of course it did death spiral we saw that play out and it happened very very quickly within 3 days but because everyone was drunk on the moonboy Kool-Aid essentially everyone was drunk on the Luna token going up everyone was drunk on those 20% yields at an was offering and a lot of big players got involved with it too this wasn't just normal retail guys this was a lot of big players within the ecosystem I mean even the biggest

players that ended up going bankrupt like three ARS Capital Celsius FTX right and SPF and all that they were involved in this stuff uh and and because of that because there was no real uh interest in being in intellectually honest and doing deep research here what ended up happening is that you had uh basically people burying their heads in the sand and things blowing up and then a lot of people get hurt and the worst thing about Terror was the fact that people went into the USD stable coin uh thinking that it was a somewhere safe to be because they're like oh it's a stable coin right but it no not all stable coins are created equal there are different risk profiles for different stable coins and that was just not made apparent because everyone was drunk on the Kool-Aid whereas within the ethereum E system there has been stuff like this

before I think like specifically within defi summer there was a lot of this but it was very contained back then and I think the ethereum community learned from that and basically said okay well let's not repeat that let's make sure that we call out the risks as we see them we do deep research search on them we talk about them openly and it's not just within the context of of reaking it's also in the context of client diversity it's in the context of validators um market share like Lio for example having having a big market share on the network what the implications of that are it's in the context of l2s I mean l2b does a lot of great work around this and now obviously we have themes like nethermind looking at reaking looking at things like shared sequences looking at abses and that sort of stuff

is honestly one of my bull cases for ethereum the fact that we are so transparent and we are so kind of interested in getting to the bottom of things and outlining all those risks and making sure that we're aware of them that to me is a a massive strength of the ethereum ecosystem that really I I I think that any other e there are other ecosystems that do take security and and kind of research into it seriously but I think that in terms of like the amount of stuff going on in ethereum and the amount of stuff that we have to keep track of and we have to do research on especially because ethereum is at the Forefront of a lot of things like me for example all Networks will suffer from meev but because ethereum is at the Forefront it's have to deal with those

problems first and head on and have to come up with solutions to them uh yeah I just think ethereum is is way way ahead in that regard but yeah anyway enough of my rambling here you can go read this report for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description below for you to do so all right so metamask announced today uh something called a validator staking on metamask portfolio so with a 32 e deposit uh uh rerun your very own validator node where you're always in control no pulling no Hardware just rewards so met is using consensus consensus staking to do this where essentially you can just deposit 32 e with them they'll run the validator they'll manage all the all the note operation um and uh but you're always in control uh and there's no pooling there's no Hardware requirements and

there's just rewards to you so if you're someone who has 32 eth and you don't want to go through the hassle of setting up your own validator and you also don't want to put that into something like um like a li or any other of those Services out there then this may be an option for you honestly I feel feel like the market for this is relatively small because if you have 32 e like I would hope that and you want to run a validator I would hope that you'd be doing it on your own honestly because it the main barrier to entry in uh that I believe within within um solo staking is that 32 E capital requirement because as I mentioned before the HRA requirements are very low and and the cost is very low so and and the technical requirements as much as

people like to talk about them being super complex at the end of the day if you have 32 e uh and and um and you want a solo stake it I think it's worth it to go through that and at the end of the day like the people that say that it's too complex and too technical well uh you know most of them aren't even going to have 32e to begin with so they don't have to worry about it and maybe that requirement goes down over time but as I've mentioned to you guys before let's say we drop at the 168th today and the eighth price Maybe not today let's say we plan to drop at the 168th in like 6 months and the eighth price doubles in 6 months then we're back to square one dollarwise like it doesn't really make a real lasting difference if we expect

eth to go up in value over time so really uh if you have L than 32 eth the next best solution obviously is permissionless pulled staking and there's a lot of solutions out for that like lsts and lrts there's a lot of those out today so you're spoiled for Choice there but in terms of like pure solo staking uh uh and I'm I'm talking like pure solo staking here not not staking with something like Rocka pool which is obviously not pure solo staking right there are still various different risks there and it's a different mechanism altogether but if we're talking about pure solo staking then obviously you still need 32 e which is a lot of money right I I mean off the top of my head what is it 30 it's $70,000 I think if I'm doing my math correctly there or maybe a bit less than

than that $65,000 or something regardless that is like a ton of money for the vast majority of people in the world that's like I would say 99.9% of percent of people do not have that just lying around to buy eth with maybe they have that somewhere else and some other assets but if we're talking about a spare money to buy eth with no people most people don't have that so that is always going to be the main barrier to entry to Pure solo staking and as I've talked about in the past if you want to bring that barrier down there are so many different considerations to that but the biggest being the fact that we can cut it in half and then e price doubles and we're back to square one so really the better solution for people with less than 32 e or less than the minimum whatever the

minimum ends up ends up being down the line is to just have pulled staking permissionless pulled staking uh and and and and also doing things like Squad staking with obal for example where essentially you can have uh uh you can run own validator you can run your own nodes and you only need to put up 3.2 e because it's if you have do it with nine other people you at minimum it's only 3.2 e so it's a much less of a a capital requirement than it is for for 32 e and I actually would consider uh Obel in its like final decentralized form to be the closest thing like obal Squad staking I should say to be the closest thing you could get to Pure solo staking because you're still running the validators you're still running the the the the full node yourself you're just sharing

the load with others out there but uh so ites it's not obviously the same as solo taking like 100% but it like gets you 99% of the way there and I'm hoping other designs follow that as well like rocket pool for example I hope that that follows that over time I think what stops people from from sing with rocker pool is obviously the fact that uh there's also an rpr requirement to put up for it um and also it's still quite High I mean 8 e plus the whatever it is 2.4 e uh worth of RPL or something that's still a pretty pretty big Capital requirement but then there are other Solutions as well coming online to to help with that too so lot of competition there a lot of stuff happening there but metam just joins the frey here with a rather unique solution for

people all right some big news out of the arbitrum ecosystem today so they put out a tweet where they said arbitrum orbit continues to enhance customization empowering projects to tailor their solutions to specific requirements today we introduced an arbitrum audit expansion program allowing you to have a self-service path to launch custom orbit chains l2s or l3s that settle to ethereum now the reason I I wanted to talk about this was not because uh they've obviously done this this huge update today but because of the way that they've done it so you may be looking at this and thinking okay well I can launch an orbit chain and settle down to uh to as an L3 and settle down to Arbitron 1 and then settle down to ethereum you can do that but also you can actually do this on any L2 so they say here orbit

chains are granted the right to make customized l2s or L3 l3s that settle to ethereum directly or other ethereum l2s such as optimistic rollups ZK rollups optimium and validium so ESS you can build these chains on any L2 you can build an arbitrum orbit chain on an optimism on op main net for example as an L3 like how cool is that this is a this is kind of a synergistic approach from the arbitrum ecosystem here it's not a monopolistic approach which I really love to see and then you can see here they continue a portion of the profit profit sharing will go to a newly established arbitrum developer Guild which will help fund arbitrum core development and l3s that settle to arbitrum 1 and Nova are already covered by the existing permissionless path and don't need to contribute Revenue back so

essentially as I said you can use these on other l2s but you will have to contribute something back to arbitrum it's not like a free lunch you don't just get to get to deploy these things on their on op Manet for example or on other l2s for example and then not contribute anything back to the arbitr EOS system there is still kind of profit sharing agreement in place there which I think is completely fine because at the end of the day if you're using arbitrum technology you're relying on the arbitrum ecosystem to continue to develop and maintain that technology so you should fund that and this is a really great way to do it by doing this profit sharing and there's been a few defi apps that have done this before I know curve basically gave permission to people to Fork their app onto other

chains but then contribute back a percentage of the revenue to the curve ecosystem uh for that you know for for that basically it's basically a way to ensure that curve gets something out of it so to speak rather than just being like a a vampire or vampiric kind of attack on on the protocol there so yeah just a very very cool announcement out of the arbitrum ecosystem today and you can also see a nice little graphic here of the orbit chain hierarchy so you can have like orbit L3 sitting at the top here settling down to an ethereum L2 uh any ethereum L2 or arbitrum 1 an arbitrum Nova or an orbit L2 as well and and then ultimately it all settles down to ethereum L1 and this is what I mean by obviously ethereum being the settlement layout like ethereum L1 is the ultimate settlement layer here even

though there's an L3 at the top settling down to an L2 but then it settles down to L1 so L1 is always the ultimate uh settlement layer so really great to see this but you can go read the post I think there's a blog post here from arbitrum 1 is there a blog post I'm not sure I hate the way Twitter does links here but there is a little bit more information in the Tweet thread I'll L this in the YouTube description below for you to go check out all right so L2 be has added a new page to their website called the finality page now you can see the average time it takes for an L2 transaction to be finalized on the L1 this has been a long time coming I've wanted to see this for a long time actually on the l2b website and it's

really great to see that they've started uh putting this out there now of course not every L2 2 is supported here you can see here that they've got six that they currently support including op main net and base and then you can see they list what type of L2 this is uh the da mode so what da mode it's currently in and the 30-day average time to finality and you can see here that for op main net there's for it's 48 seconds plus L1 finality so basically uh it's assumed that the transaction data batches are submitted sequentially and the maximum time is 7 Minutes Plus L1 kind of finality here there's also a note here that says please note the values on the page reflect the time required to achieve ordering finality at which point transactions cannot be reverted or reordered from for Simplicity they did

not include the overhead time to reach L1 finality which is the same for all projects around 13 minutes under good Network conditions and what this means is that ethereum finality happens around 13 minutes right um after two Epoch so that is uh you know you have the L2 finality and then you have L1 finality on top of that now in a world where you have basically single slot finality it would essentially it would essentially mean that the L2 gets finality at at the same time uh on it gets L1 finality at the same times that it gets L2 finality because single slot finality means that finality happens per block so if you're submitting a batch in the block then finality has happened in that block and it's completely finalized can't be reverted uh there so it's really really great to see uh that they've got this

page out there and I'm sure they're going to keep updating it here but L2 bit just continue to kill it with the transparency they're bringing to the L2 ecosystem so you can go check this out for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description below for you to do so all right last up here I just wanted to announce that Nifty Island open Beta is now live now I spoke about Nifty Island a little while ago and I did mentioned to you guys that I thought that this was really cool that they continued building during the bare Market they've been around for quite a while now they had been quiet for quite a while but you can now go to Nifty island.com and start playing I did manage to play around with it a little bit there are bugs I believe my game client crashed because I was

just searching for something in my inventory um and I hadn't got I haven't gone back since then I just have too many other things to do right now I've still got my little um eth phone that I got recently actually I've got this eth OS phone it's a pixel 7 that runs a custom kind of Android on it that has things like a light note on you can actually see I don't know if it's actually mirrored I was going to do a proper video on it but it's got like a light note on it's got like a wallet on it but yeah I still haven't had time to play around with that it's just sitting on my desk here uh but I did play around with Nifty Island a little bit uh it's pretty cool it's pretty cool what you can do you can like terraform your own

Island add items to it it runs quite smoothly uh and it's it's not too demanding on a on a PC here but you can play it in browser or Des mode on Windows and Mac so you can go check that out for yourself and they've been teasing this kind of airdrop that they're doing as well this play to play to airdrop thing that they're doing they they are going to do a token so if you're into that you can go check that out for yourself but yeah just wanted to remind you guys that it is now live the open Beta And it is O an open Beta which means that there are going to be bugs so if there are bugs be sure to report them to the team so that they know and they can fix them but yeah go check that out I'll link it in the YouTube description

below for you to do so but I think on that note that's going to be it for today so thank everyone for listening and watching be sh out to subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet give it a thumbs up subscribe to news letter join the Discord Channel and I'll catch you all next week thanks everyone